waxy maize strach - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

tiptoe · 12-08-2007, 04:38 PM

hi guys just ordered some from myprotien. have heard it is best to take this on its own with creatine and some amino's then have my way 20 mins later. Is this how most of you guys who use it take it. if not how do you take yours?

ah24 · 12-08-2007, 04:41 PM

I take 50/50 dex and WMS

15mins later some BCAA's

5mins later whey and creatine mono.

Five-O · 12-08-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ah24

I take 50/50 dex and WMS

15mins later some BCAA's

5mins later whey and creatine mono.

get it all down!

lol

**Great White** · 12-08-2007, 07:44 PM

I have 50g WMS with 50g whey 30 minutes before working out, then 50g WMS with 80g whey about 20 minutes after.

**Nytol** · 13-08-2007, 10:08 AM

I just mix it with my whey.

Do a search, and read about the WMS/Corn Starch thing, I only use Corn Starch now, exactly the same, loads cheaper, and you can get it in ASDA.

leeston · 13-08-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nytol

I just mix it with my whey.

Do a search, and read about the WMS/Corn Starch thing, I only use Corn Starch now, exactly the same, loads cheaper, and you can get it in ASDA.

Have we been here before?

Peely · 13-08-2007, 10:38 AM

i have heard that consuming both together (whey and WMS) isnt as good as taking WMS and then whey 20 minutes later?
anyone know of any reason why? any research done?
thanks.

i take of WMS asap after working out, then wait, but it would be a whole lot easier if i could take them together.

chrisj22 · 13-08-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nytol

I just mix it with my whey.

Do a search, and read about the WMS/Corn Starch thing, I only use Corn Starch now, exactly the same, loads cheaper, and you can get it in ASDA.

Bump that! When you said you tried it I raced down to tesco & bought some in - never looked back.

Leeston, try it mate. Your not on the toilet with the Brad Pitts, it's perfectly fine IMO.

**Nytol** · 13-08-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by leeston

Have we been here before?

We have; that is why I recommended he do a search,

**Nytol** · 13-08-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Peely

i have heard that consuming both together (whey and WMS) isnt as good as taking WMS and then whey 20 minutes later?
anyone know of any reason why? any research done?
thanks.

i take of WMS asap after working out, then wait, but it would be a whole lot easier if i could take them together.

Apparently the WMS is absorbed faster alone, but the concentration must be quite low I think, IMO there is no point in this, I shoot my insulin, then drink my shake so it must be absorbed pretty fast, or I'd end up in a coma, ;)

I seriously doubt if you would see any real world differences by splitting them up.

tiptoe · 13-08-2007, 03:08 PM

well have decided for the first month am gonna take the wms with creatine and some amino's then 20 mins later have my whey and see how it goes. then when its run out try them together and see if there is any noticable difference.

BodyUK · 19-08-2007, 07:30 PM

The best thing to do is mix your WMS with some hydrolysed whey protein - this stuff is partially digested and tastes like one of those bitter generic horlicks-style drinks. I actually quite like it to be honest and it makes an awesome PWO shake. Through in your creatine and aminos and away you go. Don't mix in any other carbs or isolate or normal whey as this will upset the osmotic balance that the wms creates in your stomach (and enables the fast absorption); because HWP is already partially digested it's light enough not to upset the WMS.

Otherwise, just stick to taking your whey 20mins later; it's a pain in the ****, I know 'cos I've run out of HWP and have to do exactly the same, but at least you end up getting the best of both the carbs and the protein.

**Tinytom** · 20-08-2007, 09:01 AM

BCAAs should be taken directly after Wo on empty stomach for best absorption.

Creatine (if its Ethyl Ester) should be also Post WO empty stomach, something to do with PH of stomach.

I've always taken my WMS (I now use Vitargo as its infinately better) with Whey 20 minutes after my CEE so thats about 30 minutes after WO.

WMS is disgusting to drink on its own. Try it and you'll see. I dont beleive that there's much benefit to having it on its own rather than with Whey, PWO your body will absorb everything fast due to the depleted state its in.

Just my opinion based on my own experience.

**Nytol** · 20-08-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinytom

BCAAs should be taken directly after Wo on empty stomach for best absorption.

Creatine (if its Ethyl Ester) should be also Post WO empty stomach, something to do with PH of stomach.

I've always taken my WMS (I now use Vitargo as its infinately better) with Whey 20 minutes after my CEE so thats about 30 minutes after WO.

WMS is disgusting to drink on its own. Try it and you'll see. I dont beleive that there's much benefit to having it on its own rather than with Whey, PWO your body will absorb everything fast due to the depleted state its in.

Just my opinion based on my own experience.

I totally agree mate.

I have drank WMS mixed with some squash and found it not to taste bad at all, never mixed it up in just water though.

**Aftershock** · 20-08-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nytol

I just mix it with my whey.

Do a search, and read about the WMS/Corn Starch thing, I only use Corn Starch now, exactly the same, loads cheaper, and you can get it in ASDA.

Tell me about it. I bought a 5kg tub before I found out it was cornflour lol

12-08-2007, 04:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
tiptoe Gym Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 101	waxy maize strach hi guys just ordered some from myprotien. have heard it is best to take this on its own with creatine and some amino's then have my way 20 mins later. Is this how most of you guys who use it take it. if not how do you take yours? __________________ reps level 3 personal trainer and nutritional advisor

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ah24 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: crawley Posts: 2,588	Re: waxy maize strach I take 50/50 dex and WMS 15mins later some BCAA's 5mins later whey and creatine mono.

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Nytol UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,424	Re: waxy maize strach I just mix it with my whey. Do a search, and read about the WMS/Corn Starch thing, I only use Corn Starch now, exactly the same, loads cheaper, and you can get it in ASDA. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Peely I am the Ultimate Warrior Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 33	Re: waxy maize strach i have heard that consuming both together (whey and WMS) isnt as good as taking WMS and then whey 20 minutes later? anyone know of any reason why? any research done? thanks. i take of WMS asap after working out, then wait, but it would be a whole lot easier if i could take them together.

13-08-2007, 03:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
tiptoe Gym Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 101	Re: waxy maize strach well have decided for the first month am gonna take the wms with creatine and some amino's then 20 mins later have my whey and see how it goes. then when its run out try them together and see if there is any noticable difference. __________________ reps level 3 personal trainer and nutritional advisor

19-08-2007, 07:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
BodyUK Rookie Barbarian/Pillager Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Deep in the forest Posts: 113	Re: waxy maize strach The best thing to do is mix your WMS with some hydrolysed whey protein - this stuff is partially digested and tastes like one of those bitter generic horlicks-style drinks. I actually quite like it to be honest and it makes an awesome PWO shake. Through in your creatine and aminos and away you go. Don't mix in any other carbs or isolate or normal whey as this will upset the osmotic balance that the wms creates in your stomach (and enables the fast absorption); because HWP is already partially digested it's light enough not to upset the WMS. Otherwise, just stick to taking your whey 20mins later; it's a pain in the ****, I know 'cos I've run out of HWP and have to do exactly the same, but at least you end up getting the best of both the carbs and the protein. __________________ For 5% off your first order at myprotein.co.uk use code MP16886. :withstupi

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Tinytom SuperMod on the road to redemption Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Babylon Posts: 5,382	Re: waxy maize strach BCAAs should be taken directly after Wo on empty stomach for best absorption. Creatine (if its Ethyl Ester) should be also Post WO empty stomach, something to do with PH of stomach. I've always taken my WMS (I now use Vitargo as its infinately better) with Whey 20 minutes after my CEE so thats about 30 minutes after WO. WMS is disgusting to drink on its own. Try it and you'll see. I dont beleive that there's much benefit to having it on its own rather than with Whey, PWO your body will absorb everything fast due to the depleted state its in. Just my opinion based on my own experience. __________________ We are what we do. Excellence is therefore a habit not a skill. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Code 'UKM 110' for an extra 5% discount To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Coming Soon To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Also mod at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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