bsn - usage of cellmass and N.O eplode?? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

adamb84 · 16-07-2007, 04:31 PM

hi all,

on the tubs of n.o. explode and cellmass it says you should cycle these, 3 months on and 1 month off.... why do these have to be cycled???

and what would happen if i was to not cycle and just carry on using it after the 3 month on phase??

thanks!

genesis · 16-07-2007, 06:10 PM

You would explode

mainly down to the creatine really mate both products contain creatine, no matter what form its in you are best having a rest after a few months, its not good to stay on anything constantly as your body will get used to it, creatine can have a negative affect on the kidneys if stayed on for to long and in massive doses, but if you stick to what it says on the tub you should be fine

deejpj · 16-07-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by genesis

You would explode

mainly down to the creatine really mate both products contain creatine, no matter what form its in you are best having a rest after a few months, its not good to stay on anything constantly as your body will get used to it, creatine can have a negative affect on the kidneys if stayed on for to long and in massive doses, but if you stick to what it says on the tub you should be fine

X2. yeah cos of the CEE in it. apparently you can stay on mono but id always cycle or your body will just dump all the creatine and then its just a waste of money. Remember drink lots of water to keep the kidneys workin goooood lol

adamb84 · 16-07-2007, 09:37 PM

cool thanks guys

mickus · 17-07-2007, 10:15 AM

Adam,

I have been using cellmass and no explode with out any cycling and there has been no problems, other lads like tinytom will tell you the same.

I only use the cellmass and no explode on weight training days though, there is no need to take both of them everyday of the week as these products dont benifit from a loading phase like the old monohydrate creatines did.

So if you are using it only on training days you will save a fortune still get the benifits but also not need to cycle the product.

Ollie B · 17-07-2007, 10:17 AM

well the reason i believe you should cycle these is because you become tolerant to it and will have no effect. Plus of all its good to have a break from all these things once in a while.

The Rave · 17-07-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ollie B

well the reason i believe you should cycle these is because you become tolerant to it and will have no effect. Plus of all its good to have a break from all these things once in a while.

Im with Ollie on this one, your body becomes more efficient at breaking down the various compounds and therefore to get the same effects you would need to increase the dosage which can in turn have its own health implications.

**Tinytom** · 17-07-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by deejpj

X2. yeah cos of the CEE in it. apparently you can stay on mono but id always cycle or your body will just dump all the creatine and then its just a waste of money. Remember drink lots of water to keep the kidneys workin goooood lol

Other way around mate

Creatine mono leads to production of creatinine in the body which is a toxin measured in blood tests.

CEE does nto produce creatinine.

Also - just dump all the creatine? sorry but that isnt true. The body reaches a saturation point where it becomes used to the level being provided and therefore you dont see anymore gains. Although if you were to withdraw the creatine you would see a noticeable drop.

This is one reason why companies say to cycle creatine so that you dont become accustomed to the product and write it off as useless and go with something else. You will become used to any product after a while but does this mean you should break from whey protein?

Creatine does not cause problems when taken in low moderate doses. I've been on CellMass for over 2 years and although my creatinine levels have been slightly elevated in my blood tests the doctor said that this is probably more due to my muscle mass (muscles excrete creatinine)

Any product you take will have limited results. Its not that your body becomes accustomed to it and its useless its to do with a certain amount of creatine will only produce a certain amount of ATP and only allo wa certain amount of water retention in the muscles.

You need to eat and train more using this boost to grow more muscles and then you'll see better results as you have more storage capacity.

Creatine is not a muscle builder its a facilitator for muscle growth. Normally people attribute a stale workout routine and a flawed diet to a supplement not working.

Just my experience.

Ollie B · 17-07-2007, 11:01 AM

Good post tom.

pauly7582 · 18-07-2007, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinytom

Other way around mate

Creatine mono leads to production of creatinine in the body which is a toxin measured in blood tests.

CEE does nto produce creatinine.

Also - just dump all the creatine? sorry but that isnt true. The body reaches a saturation point where it becomes used to the level being provided and therefore you dont see anymore gains. Although if you were to withdraw the creatine you would see a noticeable drop.

This is one reason why companies say to cycle creatine so that you dont become accustomed to the product and write it off as useless and go with something else. You will become used to any product after a while but does this mean you should break from whey protein?

Creatine does not cause problems when taken in low moderate doses. I've been on CellMass for over 2 years and although my creatinine levels have been slightly elevated in my blood tests the doctor said that this is probably more due to my muscle mass (muscles excrete creatinine)

Any product you take will have limited results. Its not that your body becomes accustomed to it and its useless its to do with a certain amount of creatine will only produce a certain amount of ATP and only allo wa certain amount of water retention in the muscles.

You need to eat and train more using this boost to grow more muscles and then you'll see better results as you have more storage capacity.

Creatine is not a muscle builder its a facilitator for muscle growth. Normally people attribute a stale workout routine and a flawed diet to a supplement not working.

Just my experience.

Yup, totally true. There are studies to back all this up too.

16-07-2007, 04:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
adamb84 Gym Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 143	bsn - usage of cellmass and N.O eplode?? hi all, on the tubs of n.o. explode and cellmass it says you should cycle these, 3 months on and 1 month off.... why do these have to be cycled??? and what would happen if i was to not cycle and just carry on using it after the 3 month on phase?? thanks!

16-07-2007, 06:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
genesis aka Marc Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,567	Re: bsn - usage of cellmass and N.O eplode?? You would explode mainly down to the creatine really mate both products contain creatine, no matter what form its in you are best having a rest after a few months, its not good to stay on anything constantly as your body will get used to it, creatine can have a negative affect on the kidneys if stayed on for to long and in massive doses, but if you stick to what it says on the tub you should be fine

16-07-2007, 09:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
adamb84 Gym Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 143	Re: bsn - usage of cellmass and N.O eplode?? cool thanks guys

17-07-2007, 10:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
mickus Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North London Posts: 518	Re: bsn - usage of cellmass and N.O eplode?? Adam, I have been using cellmass and no explode with out any cycling and there has been no problems, other lads like tinytom will tell you the same. I only use the cellmass and no explode on weight training days though, there is no need to take both of them everyday of the week as these products dont benifit from a loading phase like the old monohydrate creatines did. So if you are using it only on training days you will save a fortune still get the benifits but also not need to cycle the product.

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