kir1991

enyone now wich ones the best " i.s.a test" or n.o.r.a.t.e.e.n 2 ?

and were can i get them cheapest (in tablet form.)

kir1991

id apresiate eny help

Littleluke

Norateen = HOS
Isa-Test = HOS ...............................

HOS = HEAP OF SH!T.

Complete waste of money. Get some NOXplode, You'll get more results from that. No product will give you great gains anyway unless you have a sound diet and training program. But even with this, test boosters like the ones above will do nothing.

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Norateen - some people swear by it, but the ingredients have never either impressed me or encouraged me to try it. Its a popular product, but not one I'd recommend personally, especially at such a high price.

Isa-Test is a good testosterone booster. We have a high repeat purchase rate on this (no doubt the best indicator of if a product does the job).

The best test booster I've used in recent times is Blue Up by Controlled Labs which is actually pretty similar to Isa-Test but slightly cheaper.

BSN NO-Xplode is a good product which works great as a pre-workout supplement as its intended to be, but personally I think test boosters are better products for mass building - since NO2 as much as it improves pumps, doesnt have a proven direct affect on muscle growth. NO-Xplode does have some creatine in it, but it is primarily an NO2/Energy product.

The single best product I've used in the last year for effects in the gym is beta-alanine. I found that improved both how much I could lift and how many reps I could do. The particular product I've been using is Beta-X by AST but Isatori H+ Blocker and Biotest Beta-7 are very similar.

Anyway, to answer the original question - Isa-Test in my opinion is better - the ingredients in Isa-Test are all very solid whereas there is little evidence for any of the ingredients in norateen.

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I have used ISA-TEST with a good diet and good training and I didn't notice a thing. Extremely over priced.

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From the ones that I have seen, T-BOMB II has many ingrediants that I have found over the years that suggest some test boosting.
My buddy before going on TRT used it and started getting morning wood.
He lost his libido, didnt get any morning wood, after the very next day taking T-BOMB II he got morning wood.

It has ZMA, estrogen blockers, DHT blockers, aromatase inhibitors, lowers SHBG raising free test, stuff to boos libido.

But if you are young, you probably dont need it.
Get some creatine.

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kir1991

ok so i take it theres no good test boosters out there?lol.
what the best creatine then ?, ive tried cnp ,explosive creatine by LA and some other creatines like myprotein creatine.the only creatine i felt working was the LA stuff, it was good but i hated the fruit punch taste.i could feel that i can lift more, and when i went on the push bike i could cycle for longer. i guess thats the effect of creatine monohydrate?

hackskii

I like V12 but that stuff is expensive as hell.

Problem with the test boosters is this, once the body realizes that there is extra testosterone floating around this will send a signal to the hypothalamus to reduce GnRH, which will tell the pituitary to lower LH and FSH and this will send a signal to the leydig cells to not produce as much test.

So, again if you are young, this might help for a very short period of time, but if you are old and estrogen has something to do with your lower than normal base values of testosterone, this can be a good thing to bring you up to normal or twards normal levels of testosterone.

The body it totally smart and smarter than we are in regards to ballancing hormones, it is all about checks and ballances and negative feedback.

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Well, as always some things work for some people but not others. I know quite a number of our instore customers use Isa-test and most keep coming back for it and tell us its good. I dont have shares in Isatori or anything (and in fact make more money selling LA Muscle), just giving an honest idea of the feedback we get on it - and its 95% positive. With norateen we do get a far more negative response.

I dont know if you're a natural trainer or not, but obviously if you use steroids then you're going to find any test booster pretty tame and likewise if you are natural but have high natural test levels you will get little results from it. I personally as a non-steroid user with average test levels find I get a good response from most test boosters I take. A little too good sometimes as I find they make me short tempered and irritable.....

Sounds a bit like Animal M Stak and Stak 2 - which are two products I rate.

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kir1991

ok cheers, im going to try the isa test and no explode