Pscarb

they must of removed the trans fat or not declared it i would be intrested to see how they removed it from the blend

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Karl(Reflex)

There are such things as natural trans fats. They occur naturally, in small quantities, in meat and dairy products from ruminants (cows, goats,etc).

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Very naughty if thats the case!

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I think i am right in thinking that the USA is about to ban Trans Fats from food products so since Pro pep is a USA made product and its biggest market is USA I suspect they may be prempting this .. I could be wrong though

BTW Express Whey is a Blend Of whey Isolate , Whey concentrate and Micellar Casein FYI original poster .. big discount and try before you buy for UK Muscle members :beer1:

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Pscarb

So because it is natural it is good for you or is it still one of the worst fats you can consume??

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Nine Pack

I'll be speaking to CNP today when I collect my daily order so will let you all know. I would seriously doubt that they had an ingredient that is not declared as these things are all tested anyway. Certain companies have done this in the past & been fined heavily. Some still flout the law though and eventually get nailed.

Karl(Reflex)

The problem with trans fats formed via hydrognation is that they are essentailly not recognised by the body and this is where the problem occurs, as therefore does not know how to deal with them.

Natural trans fats, such as CLA will be present (all beit in small quantities, although higher in cows that grase on graas) in milk, cheese yoghurts,etc and have been part of our diet for a very long time, therefore they do not pose the severe health problems that the un-natural form have.

Pscarb

yes but is it the un-natural form or the natural form???

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Nytol

CLA is a trans fat?????

I have not heard that before.

CLA is very good for you, but the hydrogenated oils that most people think of as trans fats (if indeed CLA is classed as one?), are the worst thing you can possibly eat.

There is talk of a ban in the US, but as everything else it will come down to money, and I'd be surprised if it came into effect.

They give food a longer shelf life, making it more profitable, so who cares if it kills people???

Boditronics Ltd

CLA is indeed a Trans fat , but there is a difference between an horogenated (sp) fat and a naturally altered fat like CLA , they both come under the broader heading Trans Fat but only the later clogs the arteries as your body cannot break it down , Trans fat is a euphomism for altered fat and some are naturally altered whereas man made ones are chemically and heat altered making them in affect toxic

sorry bout the grammer am in a bit of a rush

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Karl(Reflex)

That i dont know, however looking at the ingredients list there is nothing that jumps out that would contain hydrogenated trans fats.

Nine Pack

The old labels with Dorians face on the logo did indeed show there to be 1g of trans fats which was probably the CLA content, so Paul was right about the labeling, I only have the new style ones in stock & the trans fat is no longer in the product at all, or on the label.
CNP are getting a definitive answer on the subject from the US side of the operation where certain CNP products (inc Pro Pep) are made. They will post the response on here as soon as possible.

Pscarb

cheers Paul....

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Nytol

Well you learn something new every day, I did not know that (about the CLA).

Nice one, ;)

Nytol

I just got sent this:



By Dr. Rallie McAllister
Like it or not, New York City restaurant patrons soon will be eating less trans fat when they dine out. On Dec. 5, 2006, New York City's Board of Health adopted a resolution to restrict the service of food products containing artificial trans fat at New York City restaurants.

While the political and economic implications of the resolution have been hotly debated, there's little doubt that consumption of trans fat has negative health consequences.

In clinical studies, trans fats have been shown to elevate total blood cholesterol and levels of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol. Even worse, they tend to reduce levels of heart- healthy high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol.

No other known dietary component has both of these adverse effects, each of which contributes to the development of heart disease, a condition shared by more than 12 million Americans. Each year, heart disease claims the lives of more than 500,000 people in the United States.

There's also evidence to suggest that consumption of trans fat can trigger insulin resistance, boosting the risk of developing type 2 diabetes. In the body, trans fat may interfere with the normal metabolism of essential fatty acids, leading to disruptions in the production of various hormones and blood clotting factors.

Most of the trans fat in the typical American diet is artificially created in a process known as hydrogenation, in which plant oils are exposed to hydrogen in the presence of a catalyst at high temperatures. The process changes the structure of the chemical bonds in fat, transforming them from a liquid to solid state.

With their revised chemical structure, hydrogenated oils don't break down or become rancid as quickly as naturally occurring oils and fats. This property comes in handy in the preparation of fried foods, including chicken, doughnuts and french fries. It also helps retard spoilage and prolong the shelf life of commercially prepared baked goods.

Not all trans fat in the U.S. diet is artificially engineered: Small amounts occur naturally in grazing animals used in food production.

Regardless of the source, health and nutrition experts agree that Americans consume too much of the bad fat. According to data published by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the average daily intake among adults is about 5.8 grams.

Guidelines issued by the American Heart Association recommend that trans fat consumption be kept below 1 percent of total energy intake. The Institutes of Medicine concluded that because trans fat confers no known health benefit and contributes to heart disease, intake should be as low as possible.

One way to reduce your consumption of trans fat is to avoid eating commercially prepared fried foods. Choosing a bagel instead of a doughnut for breakfast will eliminate about 5 grams of trans fat from your diet, and foregoing the french fries at lunch will cut out another 8 grams.

While you're reducing your consumption of fried fare, you can also choose prepackaged foods that are free of trans fat. Since January 2006, the FDA has required food manufacturers to list trans fat content on the Nutrition Facts panels of all food items and many nutritional supplements.

When you're preparing food at home, it's a good idea to use ingredients that contain monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats. Unlike trans fat, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats do not elevate blood cholesterol levels, and both offer a number of health benefits when consumed in moderation.

Polyunsaturated fats are found in plant oils, including sunflower, safflower and sesame seed oil, as well as in some varieties of fish, including tuna and salmon. Canola oil and olive oil contain monounsaturated fats.

To reduce your consumption of trans fat in animal products, choose fat-free or low-fat dairy products, and lean meats, including baked poultry without the skin, and the leanest cuts of beef and pork. It's not practical to completely eliminate all trans fat from your diet, but lowering your intake will go a long way toward reducing your risk of heart disease and improving your overall health.

Dr. Rallie McAllister is a family physician in Kingsport, Tenn.