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starboy · 27-12-2006, 07:25 PM

WHAT DO U GUYS THINK OF THESE, ANY GOOD??

sainsbury own brand omega 3.6.9
ingredients
linseed(flaxseed) oil 800mg
sesame oil 75mg
rice bran oil 75mg
evening primrose oil 20mg
sunflower seed oil 20mg
lecithin 10mg
rosemary oil 1mg
providing

omega 3 263mg
omega 6 128mg
omega 9 26mg
got these on a bogof offer 2.99each 30caps in each
any views welcome or if u have any sugestions of a better cap let me know

**Nytol** · 27-12-2006, 08:00 PM

There is not really enough of any one oil in there, and most people eat too much O6, and not enough O3, you would be better off with a high strength fish oil, look for the EPA and DHA as they are the important bits.

You will also need to take a fair few of them to get the benefits, minimum, 3g per day, (fish oil that is, not your combo thing).

Nine Pack · 27-12-2006, 08:41 PM

Possible questionable quality there bud, and dosage seems low. They are really made for 'normal' people. Anyone in hard training requires far more than the normal RDA levels.
If you really want a good EFA in capsule form then my choice would be Pro Lipid. Personally I use Udo's & add a little walnut oil as well. I also use flax seeds which I grind up fresh each time in a coffee grinder & drop into my shakes.
The bulk of your EFA intake should really be coming from solid foods in thier narural form like salmon, and just supplement the rest from oils or capsules.
Hope this helps.

starboy · 27-12-2006, 08:45 PM

what about this
Sainsbury's Cod Liver Liver Oil Liquid 300ml

Sainsbury's Cod Liver Oil contains Omega 3 Fatty Acids, including EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) and DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid), which help to maintain supple and flexible joints. Vitamins A and E help maintain healthy skin whilst Vitamin D helps maintain healthy teeth and bones.

Ingredients
Cod Liver Oil, Vitamin A Prep. (Vitamin A, Sunflower Oil), Vitamin D Prep. (Fractionated Vegetable Oil, Vitamin D), Vitamin E.

Dietary Information
Free From Genetically Modified Ingredients

Nutrition

	Each Teaspoon 5 ml	% RDA*
Cod Liver Oil	4600mg
Providing Omega 3	900mg
Of which EPA & DHA	735mg
Vitamin A	600µg	75
Vitamin D	5.0µg	100
Vitamin E	3.3mg	33

£1.89

chrisj22 · 27-12-2006, 09:10 PM

As 'Nine Pack' stated, you'd probably need a lot of that if your training hard to give you the optimum amount.

Try sticking to EPA's from their most natural source - food.

Obviously if you were to have your RDA coming from natural foods you'd probably be sick, however Udo's/Walnut oil is the nuts!

**Nytol** · 27-12-2006, 11:12 PM

You will probably find it hard to get enough EPA and DHA from food, and the other consideration is the possible heavy metal contamination of fish stocks these days.

Get away from Sainsbury's, and go to 'Holland and Barrett', they have a sale on, get a huge tubs of fish oil caps, and take at least 3, 1g caps per day, preferably more.

DB · 27-12-2006, 11:22 PM

i use zipvit.co.uk and get their 3,6,9's take about 6 or so a day

stay away from supermarkets supps imo

**hackskii** · 28-12-2006, 03:15 AM

I just use plain ordinary fish oils.

As nytol suggested, most of us get too much Omega 6 in comparison to Omega 3's.
Now the optimum levels of 3-6 would be 1/1 to ¼
The typical American diet is between 1/10 to 1/25.
So you can see where this can be a problem supplementing Omega 6 fats?
If the ratio is off then why add more Omega 6 to the diet?
This confuses me.
Of course the ratio is nice but nobody eats like that so this is a compromise.

Flax is an inferior oil if you are looking towards taking in more Omega 3 fatty acids then I would totally suggest some fish oils.
Not cod liver oil, although they are good, but to get the amount of Omega 3’s in your diet using cod liver oil can give you too much Vitamin A in your diet and this is toxic in the amounts you are considering using to get your Omega 3’s.

Anyway, good luck……

SportDr · 28-12-2006, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

I just use plain ordinary fish oils.

As nytol suggested, most of us get too much Omega 6 in comparison to Omega 3's.
Now the optimum levels of 3-6 would be 1/1 to ¼
The typical American diet is between 1/10 to 1/25.
So you can see where this can be a problem supplementing Omega 6 fats?
If the ratio is off then why add more Omega 6 to the diet?
This confuses me.
Of course the ratio is nice but nobody eats like that so this is a compromise.

Flax is an inferior oil if you are looking towards taking in more Omega 3 fatty acids then I would totally suggest some fish oils.
Not cod liver oil, although they are good, but to get the amount of Omega 3’s in your diet using cod liver oil can give you too much Vitamin A in your diet and this is toxic in the amounts you are considering using to get your Omega 3’s.

Anyway, good luck……

As Nytol said, what about the toxicity in the fish oil Hacks? I too take 12 caps a day and Udos but worry about the pollution I might be ingesting also, do you think its over rated?

And Nine pack, from what I can see, walnut oil is high in Omega 6, why are you adding it to the Udo's? polite question, Its just that as Hacks says, the western diet is full of Omega 6 already?

Regards
SD

**Nytol** · 28-12-2006, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportDr

As Nytol said, what about the toxicity in the fish oil Hacks? I too take 12 caps a day and Udos but worry about the pollution I might be ingesting also, do you think its over rated?

Many fish oil supps are tested for polutants, and I dont think they are easily transfered to the oil from the flesh.

You are much better off taking the oil, than eating the fish.

Nine Pack · 28-12-2006, 02:41 PM

SD,
My mistake there for not wording it clearly. I don't add walnut oil to udos, I just meant I add it to my diet generally. I also eat 50g of walnuts a day as well as the oil.

As regards fish oils, I am not convinced that they are a particularly valuable source as the processing methods will usually see a large degree of degredation before they reach the end user. I do supplement with EFA's, but the bulk of my fats are from natural food sources. When I buy salmon, I will opt for the wild alaskan stuff in preference to farmed salmon as the diet the fish was on when it was farmed has a direct impact on the quality of the oils we ingest when we eat the fish. Most farmed fish are fed on the cheapest possible food as it makes for more profit. To get the EPA & DHA, all we need to do really is take in enough Omega 3 as our cells are capable of manufacturing EPA & DHA from this O3. I believe that flax seeds & hemp seeds are an excellent source, provided we buy the seeds & grind them up fresh for each meal we use them. The oils will usually have gone rancid unless properly processed & stored. It's for this reason I will stick to Udo's & Pro Lipid as I trust the manufacturers.
If we want to get really anal about our fats then we should be eating fresh, raw coldwater oily fish, & have it with a side order of brown & red algae,.... lovely. The algae is now being grown commercially for it's ability to produce EPA & DHA.

I'll go back to my usual stance on these things though; stop worrying about every little nanogram of fat every day. Just eat a good sourced oily fish two or three times a week, oats every day, an avocado here & there & add a little UDO's, or quality EFA supplement to make up the shortfall. We can worry too much about the ratios of O3 & O6 but if your diet is a clean bodybuilding type diet then the 'typical' imbalance we see cited commonly is not really a problem we will encounter.

SportDr · 28-12-2006, 04:52 PM

Thanks for those replies guys, cleared it up for me. I will continue with the Udos and fish oils from MP and try not to worry too much about EFA's.
I also have 20mg of flax seed on my lunch every day, I don't grind it but eat it whole, not sure if the stomach can actually penetrate the shell of the seed to get at the goodness, but they taste nice anyhow.

SD

Five-O · 29-12-2006, 01:29 AM

I tend to go for the liquid brand of flax and stuff, although I appreciate why some will prefer the caps over liquid, the taste aint nothing to write home about, I think myprotein stock powdered flax that can be added to shakes.

SportDr · 29-12-2006, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Five-O

I tend to go for the liquid brand of flax and stuff, although I appreciate why some will prefer the caps over liquid, the taste aint nothing to write home about, I think myprotein stock powdered flax that can be added to shakes.

They do stock it but from what I have heard it tastes like cr1p! Safer with seeds. I add Udo's to my shakes, makes them taste fantastic, will be adding plenty when I start my cycle in Jan/Feb.

SD

LondonGeezer · 29-12-2006, 05:28 PM

I just use normal fish oils aswell.. i take 4g daily and i definatly feel its effects!!

Also, there is something called PureEPA which imo would be nice to chuck 1 capsule in everyday with your fishoils.

You see, DHA actually can reduce the effects of the EPA in a fish oil. although they are both really good for you, working together DHA has been known to reduce the effects of the EPA and so this is why people take higher dosages. But what if you could take a reasonable dosage of say 3-4g daily followed by a PureEPA capsule with about 350mg of just PURE EPA? - This will raise the effects of the EPA which were countered by DHA.

Bit confusing i guess, the way i put it. but basically imho i think taking 3-4g omega 3 fish oils daily followed by 1 PureEPA capsule daily can do a world of good.

The PureEPA article can be found here:
http://www.epa1.co.uk/

the product can be found here:
http://www.mind1st.co.uk/

27-12-2006, 07:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
starboy Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	OMEGA 369 oil WHAT DO U GUYS THINK OF THESE, ANY GOOD?? sainsbury own brand omega 3.6.9 ingredients linseed(flaxseed) oil 800mg sesame oil 75mg rice bran oil 75mg evening primrose oil 20mg sunflower seed oil 20mg lecithin 10mg rosemary oil 1mg providing omega 3 263mg omega 6 128mg omega 9 26mg got these on a bogof offer 2.99each 30caps in each any views welcome or if u have any sugestions of a better cap let me know

27-12-2006, 08:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nytol UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,305	Re: OMEGA 369 oil There is not really enough of any one oil in there, and most people eat too much O6, and not enough O3, you would be better off with a high strength fish oil, look for the EPA and DHA as they are the important bits. You will also need to take a fair few of them to get the benefits, minimum, 3g per day, (fish oil that is, not your combo thing).

27-12-2006, 08:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nine Pack Shouldn't be let out loose.... Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,632	Re: OMEGA 369 oil Possible questionable quality there bud, and dosage seems low. They are really made for 'normal' people. Anyone in hard training requires far more than the normal RDA levels. If you really want a good EFA in capsule form then my choice would be Pro Lipid. Personally I use Udo's & add a little walnut oil as well. I also use flax seeds which I grind up fresh each time in a coffee grinder & drop into my shakes. The bulk of your EFA intake should really be coming from solid foods in thier narural form like salmon, and just supplement the rest from oils or capsules. Hope this helps.

27-12-2006, 11:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nytol UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,305	Re: OMEGA 369 oil You will probably find it hard to get enough EPA and DHA from food, and the other consideration is the possible heavy metal contamination of fish stocks these days. Get away from Sainsbury's, and go to 'Holland and Barrett', they have a sale on, get a huge tubs of fish oil caps, and take at least 3, 1g caps per day, preferably more.

27-12-2006, 11:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
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28-12-2006, 03:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,483	Re: OMEGA 369 oil I just use plain ordinary fish oils. As nytol suggested, most of us get too much Omega 6 in comparison to Omega 3's. Now the optimum levels of 3-6 would be 1/1 to ¼ The typical American diet is between 1/10 to 1/25. So you can see where this can be a problem supplementing Omega 6 fats? If the ratio is off then why add more Omega 6 to the diet? This confuses me. Of course the ratio is nice but nobody eats like that so this is a compromise. Flax is an inferior oil if you are looking towards taking in more Omega 3 fatty acids then I would totally suggest some fish oils. Not cod liver oil, although they are good, but to get the amount of Omega 3’s in your diet using cod liver oil can give you too much Vitamin A in your diet and this is toxic in the amounts you are considering using to get your Omega 3’s. Anyway, good luck…… __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

28-12-2006, 02:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nine Pack Shouldn't be let out loose.... Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,632	Re: OMEGA 369 oil SD, My mistake there for not wording it clearly. I don't add walnut oil to udos, I just meant I add it to my diet generally. I also eat 50g of walnuts a day as well as the oil. As regards fish oils, I am not convinced that they are a particularly valuable source as the processing methods will usually see a large degree of degredation before they reach the end user. I do supplement with EFA's, but the bulk of my fats are from natural food sources. When I buy salmon, I will opt for the wild alaskan stuff in preference to farmed salmon as the diet the fish was on when it was farmed has a direct impact on the quality of the oils we ingest when we eat the fish. Most farmed fish are fed on the cheapest possible food as it makes for more profit. To get the EPA & DHA, all we need to do really is take in enough Omega 3 as our cells are capable of manufacturing EPA & DHA from this O3. I believe that flax seeds & hemp seeds are an excellent source, provided we buy the seeds & grind them up fresh for each meal we use them. The oils will usually have gone rancid unless properly processed & stored. It's for this reason I will stick to Udo's & Pro Lipid as I trust the manufacturers. If we want to get really anal about our fats then we should be eating fresh, raw coldwater oily fish, & have it with a side order of brown & red algae,.... lovely. The algae is now being grown commercially for it's ability to produce EPA & DHA. I'll go back to my usual stance on these things though; stop worrying about every little nanogram of fat every day. Just eat a good sourced oily fish two or three times a week, oats every day, an avocado here & there & add a little UDO's, or quality EFA supplement to make up the shortfall. We can worry too much about the ratios of O3 & O6 but if your diet is a clean bodybuilding type diet then the 'typical' imbalance we see cited commonly is not really a problem we will encounter.

28-12-2006, 04:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,623	Re: OMEGA 369 oil Thanks for those replies guys, cleared it up for me. I will continue with the Udos and fish oils from MP and try not to worry too much about EFA's. I also have 20mg of flax seed on my lunch every day, I don't grind it but eat it whole, not sure if the stomach can actually penetrate the shell of the seed to get at the goodness, but they taste nice anyhow. SD __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819

29-12-2006, 01:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
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