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OnePack · 16-03-2004, 07:11 PM

this is what i bought

http://www.winningwayssports.co.uk/c...roductid=HR715

it says on the tub that it's got glutamine, but is it enough (it says on the tub: "glutamate/glutamin 21.1" per 100g

and also i've been thinking about some weight gain product such as this one:

http://www.winningwayssports.co.uk/c...roductid=HR714

will this do the job?

any comments appreciated.

Langers · 20-03-2004, 01:01 AM

Looks ok I suppose.

I personally tend to stick to the Reflex protein products.

Panthro · 20-03-2004, 02:29 PM

yeah, agree with langers on that one... doenst look top quality..

OnePack · 22-03-2004, 04:14 AM

doesn't look top quality...? how can i tell?

here's some details of it taken from the website:

Whey Protein Isolate - microfiltration

Winning Ways pre-digested Whey Protein is considered to be the most nutritionally complete protein available and is an ideal addition to the diet of athletes and body builders. Easily absorbed and high in essential amino acids and branched chain amino acids. Whey Protein Isolate can help build and support muscle tissue. Cross flow microfiltration is a process where a microscopic filter is used to separate the proteins, to yield a high quality, low fat, low lactose whey protein. This method has the highest potential for preserving the most nutritious parts of Whey Protein.

Benefits of Winning Ways Whey Protein Isolate

No heat treatment to denature proteins
A perfect ratio of essential and non-essential amino acids
A low glycaemic index
More than 50% of the essential amino acid profile is branched chain amino acids. These are important in maintaining muscle tissue and reducing catabolism
Low in fat, lactose, sodium and calories
Pleasant tasting in a selection of flavours (see top of lid for the flavour of your choice)
Whey Protein has also been linked with

Supporting a healthy immune system
Increasing the body’s glutathione production – an important antioxidant
Stimulating insulin-like growth factor IGF-1
Improve your performance and take Winning Ways Whey Protein Isolate with Winning Ways Multi Complex or Antioxidant Complex

Caution: None known if directions are followed. May be used in pregnancy and breast feeding. Suitable for vegetarians.
Goes well with: Multi Complex, Amino Acid Formula, Fish Oil Concentrate.
Recommended dosage: Add three heaped dessertspoons (40g) of powder to 300ml of water. Use a blender or shake in a screw-topped jar. The amount of water may be adjusted according to taste preference. For increased calories milk may be used instead of water.

Ingredients: Cross flow microfiltered whey protein isolate (85% protein based on dry matter), flavour (nature identical), sweetener (cyclamate), glutamine. Free from genetically modified materials.

Nutritional Information (dry basis) Per 100g Per 40g serving
ENERGY Kilojoules 1692KJ 677KJ
ENERGY Kilocalories 402KCal 161KCal
Protein 84g 33g
Carbohydrate 5.5g 2.4g
Fat 6.5g 2.6g

*The above results are determined in the absence of water which may comprise up to 5% as the powder absorbs water from the atmosphere.
Protein Efficiency Ratio (PER) = 3.0

Grams of Amino Acids per 100g of protein

Glycine 2.4
Alanine 3.7
Valine1,2 6.9
Leucine1,2 7.1
Isoleucine1,2 5.8
Serine 3.9
Threonine1 3.7
Tyrosine 2.3
Aspartate/Asparagine 10.1
Phenylalanine1 5.2
Tryptophan1 1.4
Proline 7.1
Methionine1 2.4
Cysteine 2.4
Lysine1 6.9

OnePack · 22-03-2004, 04:15 AM

good? bad? how does it compare to the stuff that u guys take?

Panthro · 22-03-2004, 10:33 AM

buy a reputable brand mate. all of ^^^^^^ that is just marketing bollox!

For whey, buy relflex/dymatize are IMO the best value for money

for weight gainers, promass/n-large2 are best

OnePack · 22-03-2004, 04:39 PM

cheers, i'll just finish this"winning ways" stuff first

DB · 22-03-2004, 04:43 PM

try www.nutrisport.co.uk and there 90+ protien i bought a bulk 5kg bag for 60quid 45g protien per serving its worked wonders for me and im a student cant afford those expensive powders

OnePack · 23-03-2004, 12:49 AM

thanks, but i'm not just a student, i'm a very very very poor student :-(

damagedgoods · 23-03-2004, 09:36 AM

Nutrisport %kg for £60 - the chocolate tastes pretty good... and I read an article in No BULL that it was one of the only products that had the actual Amino Acid profiles (it actually exceded them)... reflex, and prolab didn't even feature.. Having said that I do like the Reflex stuff. but for £60 I'll gladly swap to nutrisport.

16-03-2004, 07:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
OnePack UK-M's Mascot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,503	what do u think of this stuff this is what i bought http://www.winningwayssports.co.uk/c...roductid=HR715 it says on the tub that it's got glutamine, but is it enough (it says on the tub: "glutamate/glutamin 21.1" per 100g and also i've been thinking about some weight gain product such as this one: http://www.winningwayssports.co.uk/c...roductid=HR714 will this do the job? any comments appreciated.

22-03-2004, 04:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,846	try www.nutrisport.co.uk and there 90+ protien i bought a bulk 5kg bag for 60quid 45g protien per serving its worked wonders for me and im a student cant afford those expensive powders __________________ Affiliate of Bulk Supplements Direct Discount Code= BSD290 UKBFF southcoast 2008, O80kg Champion

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20-03-2004, 01:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Langers Gym Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 195	Looks ok I suppose. I personally tend to stick to the Reflex protein products.

20-03-2004, 02:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,509	yeah, agree with langers on that one... doenst look top quality..

22-03-2004, 04:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
OnePack UK-M's Mascot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,503	doesn't look top quality...? how can i tell? here's some details of it taken from the website: Whey Protein Isolate - microfiltration Winning Ways pre-digested Whey Protein is considered to be the most nutritionally complete protein available and is an ideal addition to the diet of athletes and body builders. Easily absorbed and high in essential amino acids and branched chain amino acids. Whey Protein Isolate can help build and support muscle tissue. Cross flow microfiltration is a process where a microscopic filter is used to separate the proteins, to yield a high quality, low fat, low lactose whey protein. This method has the highest potential for preserving the most nutritious parts of Whey Protein. Benefits of Winning Ways Whey Protein Isolate No heat treatment to denature proteins A perfect ratio of essential and non-essential amino acids A low glycaemic index More than 50% of the essential amino acid profile is branched chain amino acids. These are important in maintaining muscle tissue and reducing catabolism Low in fat, lactose, sodium and calories Pleasant tasting in a selection of flavours (see top of lid for the flavour of your choice) Whey Protein has also been linked with Supporting a healthy immune system Increasing the body’s glutathione production – an important antioxidant Stimulating insulin-like growth factor IGF-1 Improve your performance and take Winning Ways Whey Protein Isolate with Winning Ways Multi Complex or Antioxidant Complex Caution: None known if directions are followed. May be used in pregnancy and breast feeding. Suitable for vegetarians. Goes well with: Multi Complex, Amino Acid Formula, Fish Oil Concentrate. Recommended dosage: Add three heaped dessertspoons (40g) of powder to 300ml of water. Use a blender or shake in a screw-topped jar. The amount of water may be adjusted according to taste preference. For increased calories milk may be used instead of water. Ingredients: Cross flow microfiltered whey protein isolate (85% protein based on dry matter), flavour (nature identical), sweetener (cyclamate), glutamine. Free from genetically modified materials. Nutritional Information (dry basis) Per 100g Per 40g serving ENERGY Kilojoules 1692KJ 677KJ ENERGY Kilocalories 402KCal 161KCal Protein 84g 33g Carbohydrate 5.5g 2.4g Fat 6.5g 2.6g *The above results are determined in the absence of water which may comprise up to 5% as the powder absorbs water from the atmosphere. Protein Efficiency Ratio (PER) = 3.0 Grams of Amino Acids per 100g of protein Glycine 2.4 Alanine 3.7 Valine1,2 6.9 Leucine1,2 7.1 Isoleucine1,2 5.8 Serine 3.9 Threonine1 3.7 Tyrosine 2.3 Aspartate/Asparagine 10.1 Phenylalanine1 5.2 Tryptophan1 1.4 Proline 7.1 Methionine1 2.4 Cysteine 2.4 Lysine1 6.9

22-03-2004, 04:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
OnePack UK-M's Mascot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,503	good? bad? how does it compare to the stuff that u guys take?

22-03-2004, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,509	buy a reputable brand mate. all of ^^^^^^ that is just marketing bollox! For whey, buy relflex/dymatize are IMO the best value for money for weight gainers, promass/n-large2 are best

22-03-2004, 04:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
OnePack UK-M's Mascot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,503	cheers, i'll just finish this"winning ways" stuff first

23-03-2004, 12:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
OnePack UK-M's Mascot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,503	thanks, but i'm not just a student, i'm a very very very poor student :-(

23-03-2004, 09:36 AM	#10 (permalink)
damagedgoods Looking Freaky Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wisbech Posts: 763	Nutrisport %kg for £60 - the chocolate tastes pretty good... and I read an article in No BULL that it was one of the only products that had the actual Amino Acid profiles (it actually exceded them)... reflex, and prolab didn't even feature.. Having said that I do like the Reflex stuff. but for £60 I'll gladly swap to nutrisport.