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06-06-2006, 10:31 PM
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| Looking Freaky  Join Date: May 2006 Location: South-East London
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  | duno about that mate i've never taken zma.. but superdrol is good i tried it once before and within 3days i felt wickid BUT i just started it properly yesterday superdrol with 17mhn.. after my 2nd tab i wos like  felt like superman. its definatly good for building lean muscle if you eat right, train right and rest.. zma raises test levels but i haven't really read up on anything else about it sori |
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07-06-2006, 02:05 PM
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| Sexy Moderator  Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom
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  | If you got it, then use it mate. If its going to help with an extra lb or two, then why not. Same applies to Creatine and Gear. People ask should they take creatine when on gear. My answer is yes, because it will help you gain an extra lb or two, so why not 
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07-06-2006, 05:23 PM
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| UK-Muscle Moderator  Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A.
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 | Take the ZMA at night before bed on an empty stomach.
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07-06-2006, 08:00 PM
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| Do not use the rebound I have heard some bad things about gyno from that one. I myself would use clomid and nolva together. That seems to work the best for me. With the exception of testicular atrophy then all should be good, if you get testicular atrophy then some HCG would be in order to aid in recovery.
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07-06-2006, 09:28 PM
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| Too bad as clomid is one of the best things for PCT.
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21-06-2006, 02:37 PM
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| Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Yeah I echo what has been said, clomid for the first couple of days then jump onto nolva, would also throw some fenugreek (very cheep) in at night time. Also agree that there are too many negatives with using an ATD (rebound) with superdol. In future NEVER start a cycle without having everything ready, very irresponsible. Now go to the gym and make friends with the big guys at your gym and ask them nicely :-) |
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21-06-2006, 03:23 PM
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| Looking Freaky Join Date: May 2006 Location: South-East London
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| yeh definatly mate.. go get ur pct sorted.. u got two weeks to make friends and get urself some Nolvadex or clomid or both. Goodluck keep us posted. how many days into your cycle are you now? how many you taking? gained anything? |
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21-06-2006, 06:20 PM
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| fenugreek, have not heard that one in a while. I did some reading on this a long time ago and decided it was not necessary, or even used. I can't remember the sides of it but I would give this one a miss and stick to the clomid or nolva. Zinc is a natural aromatase inhibitor. I suspect this might be some of the action of higher testosterone levels.
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22-06-2006, 04:44 PM
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| I mentioned Fenugreek as an addition not a replacement, since it is very cheap and has data to back it up. As to your original question, I disagree with Paul. With superdrol your own test production will be shut down, ZMA is thought to raise natural test levels (although negligable), I would recommend adding it in to your PCT when your natural test levels will need the extra help. One final note, eat as if your are on cycle. Too many people drop their cals much lower in PCT, I think it is psycological. It is too easy to go catabolic in PCT and loose some of the gains, so eat and train as if you are still 'on'. Good luck |
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22-06-2006, 05:54 PM
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| Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jun 2006
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| one week to go on superdrol have gained a bit like am 14 stone 5lbs now feel a bit ****ty feel ****ed all day am on 2 tabs aday i also had 2 nose bleeds so far i only eva had a nose bleed when i was on deca and sus years ago have cut my trainin 1 week short to just cant do any more am goin 2 have a 2 week break of trainin i have one more tub of superdrol will have another go some time this year anavar next i think after break !! |
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