V B12 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

DRED · 27-05-2006, 08:30 PM

Hello guys i have gone rite of my food and i am not shaw wot to put it down to!
it usualy happens toward the end of a co****.
could i do V B12 shots?
if so how much do i take and how often?
cheers!!!:confused:

**Great White** · 28-05-2006, 01:31 PM

Hello big man.

Yeah, appitite can be a problem when on a cycle, especially if using androgens, A50`s, Dianabol, etc.

Also, as you say, as you near the end, you get sick of the amount of food, so its hard to increase the food, to support the extra mass.

I use Vit B12 all the time.

I do 2ml E4D.

I get increased appitite, increased energy, and increased vascularity from this dosage.

Some people do as much as 2ml EOD and get good results also, although you cant OD on V12, i feel it is a little to much.

DRED · 28-05-2006, 01:34 PM

cheers for that info mate!

interloper393 · 28-11-2006, 02:57 PM

do b12 tabs give the same results? was told they increase your appetite?

LondonGeezer · 28-11-2006, 09:16 PM

I have that problem time to time (including as we speak) and my doctor prescribed me with 'Forceval' it works wonders mate.. its got Vitamin B12 and a whole heap of other vitamins + minerals to get u hungry ;).. and bcos its prescribed.. its freeee :p

**hackskii** · 28-11-2006, 10:37 PM

Ok, a little bit of info here.
B-vitamins work better together so a complex with B-12 is really the way to go.
Here is a link of the stuff I take and is dirt cheap: http://www.researchlabsupply.com/Scr...p?idproduct=35

Dose, this seems to be a big topic of debate.

How is it used in the medical field?
I know a bunch of people that get Cyanocobalamin (B12) 1000 mcg injections once a month from their doctors.
It does store in the liver and I think it can store in the liver for around a year.

Calcium is necessary for the proper absorption of vitamin B-12
Tobacco, ethanol, coffee, and laxatives prevent absorption of the vitamin. Vitamin B-12 is destroyed by heating, acid, or alkali. Vitamin B-6, vitamin B-Complex, choline, inositol, vitamin C, potassium, and sodium assist absorption.

Since the body is efficient in storing vitamin B-12, it could take up to six years before vitamin B-12 deficiency symptoms develop in a diet devoid of the vitamin. Children of vegetarian parents can become vitamin B-12 deficient in two to three years, as they have no vitamin B-12 stores in their bodies.

Recommended Dietary Allowances

RDA for adult males 2.0 mcg
RDA for adult females 2.0 mcg
RDA for children 7 to 10 years 1.4 mcg
RDA for infants: 0.5 mcg
RDA for pregnant and lactating women 2.6 mcg

The amount of dietary vitamin B-12 needed for normal human metabolism appears to be very small. Reported minimum requirements have been from 0.6 to 1.2 mcg per day, with a range to approximately 2.8 mcg to allow for individual variance. The ordinary diet easily provides this amount. For example, one cup of milk, one egg, and four ounces of meat provide 2.4 mcg. The RDA standard recommends a daily intake of 2.0 mcg for adults.

As you can see this vitamin is one of the lowest in the RDA and usually only vegetarians have problems with B-12 deficiencies.

Now it is non toxic but still it is wastefull to just bang many ml's many days.

Taking it in tab form kind of gets destroyed in the stomach.
Sublingual is effective (under the tongue with a disolving tab).
They also have nasal preperations too, you just shoot it up the nose.
Both the nasal and sublingual bypass digestion to allow better absorption.
Of course the shots would be the best.

But I do shoot 1ml of the stuff in the link about once a week to twice a week.
It is dirt cheap and comes in a huge bottle.

**Nytol** · 29-11-2006, 10:37 AM

I took 1000mcg per day for a few weeks and found it did nothing for me.

**Great White** · 29-11-2006, 12:25 PM

Im back on 2,000mcgs EOD / E3D at the moment after not using it for about 15 weeks.

Within 10 days of starting it again, im eating like a horse, got a lot more energy for my cardio (can breathe better, dont get out of breath as quick) and better vascularity.

**hackskii** · 29-11-2006, 03:30 PM

I notice NO gives me better vascularity.
IGF-1 is the best for that and so is EQ.

**Great White** · 29-11-2006, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

I notice NO gives me better vascularity.
IGF-1 is the best for that and so is EQ.

Yeah, i get awsome vascularity from NO.

Im using AAKG and Di Arginate Malate at the moment... awsome.

jimmystar · 29-12-2006, 11:21 PM

what is NO ? and is it ok to shoot b12 subcu?

**hackskii** · 29-12-2006, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmystar

what is NO ? and is it ok to shoot b12 subcu?

No = Nitric Oxide

Yes you can sub-Q B-12 no problem

jimmystar · 29-12-2006, 11:46 PM

nitric oxide would it be ok to run eca with that?

jimmystar · 29-12-2006, 11:47 PM

chears

**hackskii** · 30-12-2006, 12:18 AM

Nitric oxide is a vaso dialater(sp), so yah, it might lower blood pressure if anything so yah that would be cool

27-05-2006, 08:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
DRED Vegas 2009 oh yes indeed!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Rochester,Kent Posts: 482	V B12 Hello guys i have gone rite of my food and i am not shaw wot to put it down to! it usualy happens toward the end of a co****. could i do V B12 shots? if so how much do i take and how often? cheers!!!:confused:

28-05-2006, 01:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
Great White Sexy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 9,272	Hello big man. Yeah, appitite can be a problem when on a cycle, especially if using androgens, A50`s, Dianabol, etc. Also, as you say, as you near the end, you get sick of the amount of food, so its hard to increase the food, to support the extra mass. I use Vit B12 all the time. I do 2ml E4D. I get increased appitite, increased energy, and increased vascularity from this dosage. Some people do as much as 2ml EOD and get good results also, although you cant OD on V12, i feel it is a little to much. __________________ Welcome to Uk-Muscle.co.uk "I was born perfect, and just like the great white shark, have never had to evolve!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Hardcore Bodybuilding & Powerlifting Community! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Bodybuilding & Sports Video Sharing Community!

28-05-2006, 01:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
DRED Vegas 2009 oh yes indeed!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Rochester,Kent Posts: 482	thanks cheers for that info mate!

28-11-2006, 02:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
interloper393 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26	Re: V B12 do b12 tabs give the same results? was told they increase your appetite?

28-11-2006, 09:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
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28-11-2006, 10:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,634	Re: V B12 Ok, a little bit of info here. B-vitamins work better together so a complex with B-12 is really the way to go. Here is a link of the stuff I take and is dirt cheap: http://www.researchlabsupply.com/Scr...p?idproduct=35 Dose, this seems to be a big topic of debate. How is it used in the medical field? I know a bunch of people that get Cyanocobalamin (B12) 1000 mcg injections once a month from their doctors. It does store in the liver and I think it can store in the liver for around a year. Calcium is necessary for the proper absorption of vitamin B-12 Tobacco, ethanol, coffee, and laxatives prevent absorption of the vitamin. Vitamin B-12 is destroyed by heating, acid, or alkali. Vitamin B-6, vitamin B-Complex, choline, inositol, vitamin C, potassium, and sodium assist absorption. Since the body is efficient in storing vitamin B-12, it could take up to six years before vitamin B-12 deficiency symptoms develop in a diet devoid of the vitamin. Children of vegetarian parents can become vitamin B-12 deficient in two to three years, as they have no vitamin B-12 stores in their bodies. Recommended Dietary Allowances RDA for adult males 2.0 mcg RDA for adult females 2.0 mcg RDA for children 7 to 10 years 1.4 mcg RDA for infants: 0.5 mcg RDA for pregnant and lactating women 2.6 mcg The amount of dietary vitamin B-12 needed for normal human metabolism appears to be very small. Reported minimum requirements have been from 0.6 to 1.2 mcg per day, with a range to approximately 2.8 mcg to allow for individual variance. The ordinary diet easily provides this amount. For example, one cup of milk, one egg, and four ounces of meat provide 2.4 mcg. The RDA standard recommends a daily intake of 2.0 mcg for adults. As you can see this vitamin is one of the lowest in the RDA and usually only vegetarians have problems with B-12 deficiencies. Now it is non toxic but still it is wastefull to just bang many ml's many days. Taking it in tab form kind of gets destroyed in the stomach. Sublingual is effective (under the tongue with a disolving tab). They also have nasal preperations too, you just shoot it up the nose. Both the nasal and sublingual bypass digestion to allow better absorption. Of course the shots would be the best. But I do shoot 1ml of the stuff in the link about once a week to twice a week. It is dirt cheap and comes in a huge bottle. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

29-11-2006, 10:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nytol UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,059	Re: V B12 I took 1000mcg per day for a few weeks and found it did nothing for me.

29-11-2006, 12:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
Great White Sexy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 9,272	Re: V B12 Im back on 2,000mcgs EOD / E3D at the moment after not using it for about 15 weeks. Within 10 days of starting it again, im eating like a horse, got a lot more energy for my cardio (can breathe better, dont get out of breath as quick) and better vascularity. __________________ Welcome to Uk-Muscle.co.uk "I was born perfect, and just like the great white shark, have never had to evolve!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Hardcore Bodybuilding & Powerlifting Community! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Bodybuilding & Sports Video Sharing Community!

29-11-2006, 03:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,634	Re: V B12 I notice NO gives me better vascularity. IGF-1 is the best for that and so is EQ. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

29-12-2006, 11:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
jimmystar Gym Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 103	Re: V B12 what is NO ? and is it ok to shoot b12 subcu?

29-12-2006, 11:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
jimmystar Gym Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 103	Re: V B12 nitric oxide would it be ok to run eca with that?

29-12-2006, 11:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
jimmystar Gym Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 103	Re: V B12 chears

30-12-2006, 12:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,634	Re: V B12 Nitric oxide is a vaso dialater(sp), so yah, it might lower blood pressure if anything so yah that would be cool __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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