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Musclehed · 17-02-2004, 02:24 PM

Hey guys, I have been cutting for a few months now trying different fat burner (lean system, xenadrin etc). After trying many I have to say BIOtest HOT-ROX is the winner, allowed me to drop calories real low while not loosing any muscle. It is not cheap, although I got it off ebay a lot cheaper than the rrp (40 squid). Hope this helps some one

Jock · 17-02-2004, 04:30 PM

Can you post a link to it? I've heard about this stuff also.

***Lorian*** · 17-02-2004, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jock
Can you post a link to it? I've heard about this stuff also.

We have some info on it:

http://www.proteinfactory.co.uk/prod...st/hot_rox.asp

If you do a search on the T-mag website (www.t-mag.com) you will find a lot more.

L

Musclehed · 18-02-2004, 10:51 AM

Hey, this is where i got it from

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=21561

Think the guys got loadsa them if ya email him. Yeah as Lorain said T-mag got loadsa information about it and diets to adopt (t-dawg 2.0 worked well for me or fat fast for some quick fat loss)

***Lorian*** · 18-02-2004, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Musclehed
Think the guys got loadsa them if ya email him. Yeah as Lorain said T-mag got loadsa information about it and diets to adopt (t-dawg 2.0 worked well for me or fat fast for some quick fat loss)

You actually did the 'fat fast' diet? .. wow mate, fair play, you don't mess around!

How did you find it?
How long did you do it for?
What were your results like?

L

Jock · 18-02-2004, 12:14 PM

Do tell!!!

Musclehed · 18-02-2004, 02:20 PM

hey, I used it for 3 weeks. 6 protein (isolate) and fat (optimum oil blend - holland and barratt). Had some pysillium husk (spelling?) fiber supp, plenty of vitamins and the hot rox, and CLA (unsure about usefulness). I dropped about 13 pounds of Fat with little muscle attrophy (lifts not as intense due to the deep ketosis nature). Performed light empty stomach cardi most mornings (not easy) Although for those interested learn how to come off the diet correctly (I failed here, know better now, ask if interested), anyone want more specific info just ask. Food is such a tempory enjoyment, good body is perminent (keep telling your self this)

http://www.t-mag.com/html/body_107fat.html
http://t-mag.com/html/body_113fat.html

Langers · 19-02-2004, 11:52 AM

arrgghh, we meet again Musclehed!

19-02-2004, 11:16 PM

And if you were clever like me, you would opt for the 26 quid bottle of Hot Rox

, jeez, some people...heres your link kiddies
ask for outside US shipping though...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2988689728

Oh, and N-large, 10lbs tub...how much you reckon? 50 quid? no! 30 quid? not that either...an amazing price of just £19.97...and heres your link to that too, again ask selling for shipping outside US
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2987974853

**hackskii** · 20-02-2004, 01:56 AM

Sorry for sounding slow. Lorian/Musclehed, is this like the Atkins diet?
Ketosis?
Does this help with the Ketosis while on Atkins?
I am going to diet soon and am just reading some.

***Lorian*** · 20-02-2004, 09:10 AM

here's the link to the 'fat fast' diet ... its a little extreme to say the least!!

http://t-mag.com/html/body_107fat.html

and of course the follow up:

http://www.t-mag.com/html/body_113fat.html

L

Musclehed · 20-02-2004, 11:21 AM

hey hackskii,

firstly ketosis (im a uni chem student so i love this stuff). Ok, so have no carbs gives rise to two major metabolic changes, insulin secretion reduced, in turn the pancreas produces glucagon (catabolic, but can be used to our advantage). Glucogen has the secondary effect of converting fatty acids into ketones (great). when the ketones are at a high enough level, muscles use them instead of glucose. Ketones that are not used for energy are ****ed out (you can use ketostix (**** stix) from chemists to check u in ketosis) or breathed out (hence the bad breath from low carb diets. When all of this happen u are in KETOSIS

Fat fast is a version of atkins in as much as it uses high fat/high protein. Although all ketoic diets ARE NOT THE SAME there are huge differences (cyclic, use of carb ups (athletes do this pre marathon often (blood glycogen adavantages but thats another story).

hope this helps and i havent bored too many ppl

references cited Dan Duchain - Body opus

p.s. if it sounds unhealthy eskimos live there whole life in ketosis

robin_3_16 · 20-02-2004, 11:25 AM

i don't know if it sounds unhealthy or healthy i am ****ing confused
can anyone put it in english?

Jock · 20-02-2004, 11:59 AM

I don't get it whats exactly in this stuff that makes it so good????

Am I right in thinking it's ephedra free?

Musclehed · 20-02-2004, 12:39 PM

Firstly robin,

Fat fast is a drastic, painful, torture. Is it healthy NO not really, thats why I would never do it more than 3 weeks and few and far between. But it works, 2 waist sizes and a few body fat% as proof. If you got the time just have hypocalocalic P+F (afternoon evening) and P+C (morning) diet.

Jock,

Heres what biotest say about the ingredients (yes it is ephedra free)

http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/250hotrox.jsp

As with any supplement a lot is on trust (well trust a supp company advert???? I judge things on does it work). And remember supplement are a waste of time with out good diet, the amount of times i here friends complaining fat burners dont work when they have pizza hut all ya can eat.

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18-02-2004, 10:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
Musclehed Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 156	Hey, this is where i got it from http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...category=21561 Think the guys got loadsa them if ya email him. Yeah as Lorain said T-mag got loadsa information about it and diets to adopt (t-dawg 2.0 worked well for me or fat fast for some quick fat loss)

18-02-2004, 02:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Musclehed Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 156	hey, I used it for 3 weeks. 6 protein (isolate) and fat (optimum oil blend - holland and barratt). Had some pysillium husk (spelling?) fiber supp, plenty of vitamins and the hot rox, and CLA (unsure about usefulness). I dropped about 13 pounds of Fat with little muscle attrophy (lifts not as intense due to the deep ketosis nature). Performed light empty stomach cardi most mornings (not easy) Although for those interested learn how to come off the diet correctly (I failed here, know better now, ask if interested), anyone want more specific info just ask. Food is such a tempory enjoyment, good body is perminent (keep telling your self this) http://www.t-mag.com/html/body_107fat.html http://t-mag.com/html/body_113fat.html

19-02-2004, 11:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Insanity Guest Posts: n/a	And if you were clever like me, you would opt for the 26 quid bottle of Hot Rox , jeez, some people...heres your link kiddies ask for outside US shipping though... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2988689728 Oh, and N-large, 10lbs tub...how much you reckon? 50 quid? no! 30 quid? not that either...an amazing price of just £19.97...and heres your link to that too, again ask selling for shipping outside US http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2987974853

20-02-2004, 09:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
*Lorian* Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,535 Blog Entries: 1	here's the link to the 'fat fast' diet ... its a little extreme to say the least!! http://t-mag.com/html/body_107fat.html and of course the follow up: http://www.t-mag.com/html/body_113fat.html L __________________ Now wearing the Captain's Hat.

20-02-2004, 11:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
Musclehed Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 156	hey hackskii, firstly ketosis (im a uni chem student so i love this stuff). Ok, so have no carbs gives rise to two major metabolic changes, insulin secretion reduced, in turn the pancreas produces glucagon (catabolic, but can be used to our advantage). Glucogen has the secondary effect of converting fatty acids into ketones (great). when the ketones are at a high enough level, muscles use them instead of glucose. Ketones that are not used for energy are **ed out (you can use ketostix (** stix) from chemists to check u in ketosis) or breathed out (hence the bad breath from low carb diets. When all of this happen u are in KETOSIS Fat fast is a version of atkins in as much as it uses high fat/high protein. Although all ketoic diets ARE NOT THE SAME there are huge differences (cyclic, use of carb ups (athletes do this pre marathon often (blood glycogen adavantages but thats another story). hope this helps and i havent bored too many ppl references cited Dan Duchain - Body opus p.s. if it sounds unhealthy eskimos live there whole life in ketosis

20-02-2004, 11:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
robin_3_16 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,461	i don't know if it sounds unhealthy or healthy i am ****ing confused can anyone put it in english? __________________ Robin

20-02-2004, 11:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,040	I don't get it whats exactly in this stuff that makes it so good???? Am I right in thinking it's ephedra free? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

20-02-2004, 12:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
Musclehed Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 156	Firstly robin, Fat fast is a drastic, painful, torture. Is it healthy NO not really, thats why I would never do it more than 3 weeks and few and far between. But it works, 2 waist sizes and a few body fat% as proof. If you got the time just have hypocalocalic P+F (afternoon evening) and P+C (morning) diet. Jock, Heres what biotest say about the ingredients (yes it is ephedra free) http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/250hotrox.jsp As with any supplement a lot is on trust (well trust a supp company advert???? I judge things on does it work). And remember supplement are a waste of time with out good diet, the amount of times i here friends complaining fat burners dont work when they have pizza hut all ya can eat.

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