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andye · 30-01-2006, 07:37 PM

hello all.

im new to this site and been out of training for a while so you'll have to bear with me.

ive started training again after 2 years out. at the minute im carrying alot of fat mainly round my waist and chest. ive decided to try and cut down rather than build muscle for now.

since starting training about 6 weeks ago ive put quite alot of lost muscle back on straight away which is good, but im now trying to loose the fat.

ive dropped my (food) calories down to about a 1000 a day which normally includes a small bowl of cereal, a small dinner and an even smaller tea, mainly chicken based with very little carbs. on top of that though im taking 4-5 metrx whey protein shakes a day spead evenly (with skimmed milk) im also having a couple of spoon fulls of gluamine, 5gs of creatine a day and ive just started with hmb.

ive also been taking ephidrine for the past week and ive lost a bit of fat, but im concerned the lack of calories may make me loose the muscle (even though its still improving).

what do you think of the diet??? is it worth me taking these supplements while im dieting?

ive also got some tribulus coming this week, will i be ok taking these with the ephidrine???

all help is greatly appreciated.

ps.... im 25 weigh 14.5 stone and im 6ft.

16inch arms, 44 chest but a 38 inch kite lol

**Tinytom** · 30-01-2006, 08:12 PM

1000 cals a day is way too low mate.

You burn 80 cals an hour just at rest so when you consider that you will burn 1900 cals just living you are already below your survival rate. Post up your sample day's diet and I'll try and help.

effy is a good fat burner, HMB is good but you have to take high amounts. Paul Scarb used this for his last show I believe so maybe he can help with the dosage. I think it's a waste of money though as all the studies done on it were funded by the people who were selling it and they used sedentary individuals not hard training athletes.

Tom

**Pscarb** · 30-01-2006, 08:24 PM

Welcome to the board mate...

i have to agree with Tom though your diet at 1000 cals per day is way off as Tom as said post up you daily diet and times you eat so we can help more.

ephedrine is a good fatburner but pretty hard to get Extreme do a very good fat burner called Lean R as a member of the board you get 25% off any order with Extreme Nutrition.

I used HMB to maintain muscle not as a fat burner but to use HMB you have to use alot more than it says on the tin for any results.

Dudex · 31-01-2006, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pscarb

I used HMB to maintain muscle not as a fat burner but to use HMB you have to use alot more than it says on the tin for any results.

Not trying to hijack your thread mate, but how much would you use? And what time did you take it?

andye · 31-01-2006, 05:51 PM

cheers for the advise chaps.

the 1000 calories is from food, so i dare say im getting a lot more from the 4-5 protein shakes. (each one made with 300mls of skimmed milk).

its probs edging towards the 2000 mark, but i am trying to loose a lot of weight in a small amount of time.

at the minute im having....

6.30... 5gs glutamine 5gs of creatine 3gs hmb glass of fruit juice 2X effies
8.00.... small bowl of special k with skimmed milk
9.30.... whey protein with skimmed milk
12...... chicken breast with veg 2X ephidrine
2.00..... whey shake 3gs hmb
5.00..... chicken breast, with a small amount of startchy food 2x ephidrine
7.00.... protein
10...... protien, glutamine, creatine, 3gs hmb.

hope you can help me improve on this, and please note i am trying to loose weight FAST.

just to add.... ive lost an inch off my stomach in a week!!! (he says jumping for joy)

30-01-2006, 07:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
andye 15 stone 10lb Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: hartlepool, north east england Posts: 657	supplements while getting lean hello all. im new to this site and been out of training for a while so you'll have to bear with me. ive started training again after 2 years out. at the minute im carrying alot of fat mainly round my waist and chest. ive decided to try and cut down rather than build muscle for now. since starting training about 6 weeks ago ive put quite alot of lost muscle back on straight away which is good, but im now trying to loose the fat. ive dropped my (food) calories down to about a 1000 a day which normally includes a small bowl of cereal, a small dinner and an even smaller tea, mainly chicken based with very little carbs. on top of that though im taking 4-5 metrx whey protein shakes a day spead evenly (with skimmed milk) im also having a couple of spoon fulls of gluamine, 5gs of creatine a day and ive just started with hmb. ive also been taking ephidrine for the past week and ive lost a bit of fat, but im concerned the lack of calories may make me loose the muscle (even though its still improving). what do you think of the diet??? is it worth me taking these supplements while im dieting? ive also got some tribulus coming this week, will i be ok taking these with the ephidrine??? all help is greatly appreciated. ps.... im 25 weigh 14.5 stone and im 6ft. 16inch arms, 44 chest but a 38 inch kite lol

30-01-2006, 08:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tinytom super-hypno-moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Babylon Posts: 5,896	1000 cals a day is way too low mate. You burn 80 cals an hour just at rest so when you consider that you will burn 1900 cals just living you are already below your survival rate. Post up your sample day's diet and I'll try and help. effy is a good fat burner, HMB is good but you have to take high amounts. Paul Scarb used this for his last show I believe so maybe he can help with the dosage. I think it's a waste of money though as all the studies done on it were funded by the people who were selling it and they used sedentary individuals not hard training athletes. Tom __________________ We are what we do. Excellence is therefore a habit not a skill. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Code 'UKM 110' for an extra 5% discount To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Also mod at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Sponsored by Extreme Nutrition - Almost an unfair advantage

30-01-2006, 08:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,522	Welcome to the board mate... i have to agree with Tom though your diet at 1000 cals per day is way off as Tom as said post up you daily diet and times you eat so we can help more. ephedrine is a good fatburner but pretty hard to get Extreme do a very good fat burner called Lean R as a member of the board you get 25% off any order with Extreme Nutrition. I used HMB to maintain muscle not as a fat burner but to use HMB you have to use alot more than it says on the tin for any results. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Admin at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Sponsored by Extreme Nutrition - Almost an unfair advantage

31-01-2006, 05:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
andye 15 stone 10lb Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: hartlepool, north east england Posts: 657	cheers for the advise chaps. the 1000 calories is from food, so i dare say im getting a lot more from the 4-5 protein shakes. (each one made with 300mls of skimmed milk). its probs edging towards the 2000 mark, but i am trying to loose a lot of weight in a small amount of time. at the minute im having.... 6.30... 5gs glutamine 5gs of creatine 3gs hmb glass of fruit juice 2X effies 8.00.... small bowl of special k with skimmed milk 9.30.... whey protein with skimmed milk 12...... chicken breast with veg 2X ephidrine 2.00..... whey shake 3gs hmb 5.00..... chicken breast, with a small amount of startchy food 2x ephidrine 7.00.... protein 10...... protien, glutamine, creatine, 3gs hmb. hope you can help me improve on this, and please note i am trying to loose weight FAST. just to add.... ive lost an inch off my stomach in a week!!! (he says jumping for joy) Last edited by andye; 31-01-2006 at 05:53 PM.

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