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Old 18-01-2006, 04:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Best weight gainer for after training?

Hi guys, I always comsume a weight gainer straight after training and Im just about 2 buy a new one. I noticed someone mentiond its a good idea 2 consume one with simple sugars, i was going 2 give CNP Pro mass a go for a couple months but after reading someone mention the need for simple sugars I was thinking a product like prolabs N-large would be more benefical!? I would apprecaite your comments and views.

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Old 18-01-2006, 04:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i personally use a pure whey ,for PWO

and add my own simple carbs,

maltadextrin

fructose(honey)

glucose.

save the weight gainer as a meal,
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Old 18-01-2006, 04:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I used to use weight gainers, till i gained too much weight!? :(
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Old 18-01-2006, 04:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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......no but seriously, im with that nappy wearing dean molesting $5 me luv u long time hoe! that I add my own carbs, just stick with oats and dextrose and sum honey and banana's
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Old 18-01-2006, 09:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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whey protein, dextrose/glucose, creatine.
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Old 19-01-2006, 02:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i personally use a pure whey ,for PWO

and add my own simple carbs,

maltadextrin

fructose(honey)

glucose.

save the weight gainer as a meal,
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whey protein, dextrose/glucose, creatine.
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The thought behind this is the worked muscle with reduced glycogen stores will be crying for food, fast acting carbs spike insulin and insulin is a shuttling hormone and the muscles will accept this very easy without getting you fat from excess insulin storing that carb as a fat.

This is one of the only times that the body can do this so take advantage of this.
The other time would be first thing in the morning but not like after a workout.
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Old 19-01-2006, 05:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What source do you guys get ur dextrose/glucose from?
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chemist , supermarket, anywhere really.

holland and barrat do every kind of sugar.........

dont forget tho honey is just fructose anyway........and it tastes nice.
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Old 19-01-2006, 05:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sorry, I was meaning from which products?

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Old 21-01-2006, 01:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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what are the benefits of doing it the way you guys hav suggested? I dont hav a lot of spare cash with being a student wont that be alot more expensive?
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Old 21-01-2006, 02:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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glucose is very very cheap. if you are looking to gain some weight in general add some eggs, whole, into some casein protein. drink this before bed. fast protein in the egg whites slowed down by the yokes slowed down even further by the casein. great for 8hrs of sleep. i always used to bin the yokes but before bed this is not such a good idea. dont worry about a little bit of fat because the goodness in the yolks makes this very beneficial. people are frightened of egg yolks, make them your friend!
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what are the benefits of doing it the way you guys hav suggested? I dont hav a lot of spare cash with being a student wont that be alot more expensive?
What most people are saying is to have fast absorbing sources (whey, dextrose, fructose, malto) since your muscles need to receive nutrients as fast as possible after training.
If you want to go as cheap as possible order some plain whey in bulk and some maltodextrin then add 2tbs of honey and maybe some peanut butter, or just buy the nlarge as said earlier.
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I have traditionally always followed the fast acting carbs after workout, and thats great. I personnally use biotest Surge, during/post w/o (love the taste) and it has whey hydrolylate (even faster absorbing that isolate. But like mention above a cheap protein isolate (bulkpowders.co.uk) and some malto/dextrose (if u got a home brew shop near you its cheap as hell) will do the job.

I have a tendancy to store fat very easily so what I am currently looking into/researching recently is using lower GI carbs post workout. I am beginning to think while cutting, protein + low GI (e.g. oats) may be better option.
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Old 28-01-2006, 03:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Cheers for your info and advice guys
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I think you are referring to my comments on N-large?

N-large is a good supplement if you can't be bothered to mix everything up yourself. If you're after a CNP product then use the Pro Recover as this has antioxidants, BCAAs Simple sugars and Whey in it - Perfect after workout although you'll need to add some other whey as there's ony 23g in it.

Personally I have a small stomach so N-large works well for me as I can't consume large meals, but I would only have this after workout or first thing in the morning because of the sugars.

Through the day I would use a MRP as the protein/carb ratio is more ideal to my body type (I can't handle loads of carbs in the day). Also MRPs are more convenient as they come in sachets.

If I had the choice of anything for a meal in the day it would be whole food everytime. Whole foods take longer to break doan and so raise the metabolism for longer. This means your body will burn more calories digesting it. Quickly absorbed foods like liquids,sugars and whey wil only raise the metabolism for a short while and sugars will give you an insulin spike as well - bad.

Complex carbs - Potato, Rice, Cous Cous, Vitargo, oats
Whole protein - Eggs, Chicken, Turkey, Steak, oily fish

That's what makes the champions, supplements are just an addition to this base.
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