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Deano! · 06-11-2005, 12:21 PM

All the time i see people questioning why sio many people drink shakes instead of just eating the foods, i do it because i dont have time to eat 5-6 meals in the day simple as, but why is the protien not as good as it is in say chicken or eggs etc?

Sorry for asking silly questions but i just dont know why this is and its been pestering me all day

Also im going to be buying protien flapjacks to eat and be drinking about 4 protien shakes a day starting in a week or two, but i dont want to be wasting my money, i know it will still help anyways but i just thought protien was protien?

anyways thanks alot for any help

**Pscarb** · 06-11-2005, 01:05 PM

to be honest mate i don't know either i drink a few MRP's and shakes because of time and my job in fact i have competed successfully whilst using 2-3 MRP's per day.

the only benefit these days is that you burn more cals if you eat protein rather than drink protein.

Deano! · 06-11-2005, 01:09 PM

oh right ok then thanks pscarb mate

at the moment when i get the chance im eating red meats and chicken, veg and potatoes n a lil tuna n salmon, otherwise im drinking protien shakes im just making sure if im hitting the 300-400g protien mark then i shud be ok it does have to be just from chicken or anything

Killerkeane · 06-11-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deano!

oh right ok then thanks pscarb mate

at the moment when i get the chance im eating red meats and chicken, veg and potatoes n a lil tuna n salmon, otherwise im drinking protien shakes im just making sure if im hitting the 300-400g protien mark then i shud be ok it does have to be just from chicken or anything

varying your protein sources would be better.

DB · 06-11-2005, 06:37 PM

because foods are full of vitamins and mierals which all aid the breakdown and absorbtion of food.....

foods take longer to digest than liquid shakes so its a slower release of protien..

but sayin that pscarbs looks good on what he has to fuk it...

what MRP's do u use pscarb?

ben15 · 06-11-2005, 07:37 PM

On that topic, what does anyone think would aid muscle growth in a 15 year old? thanks

Carlos901 · 06-11-2005, 09:32 PM

nice reply baz

**big** · 06-11-2005, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DB

because foods are full of vitamins and mierals which all aid the breakdown and absorbtion of food.....

foods take longer to digest than liquid shakes so its a slower release of protien..

but sayin that pscarbs looks good on what he has to fuk it...

what MRP's do u use pscarb?

Yes, good post babe.

Also there is more of a thermogenic effect of eating food than drinking liquid.

Lauren · 07-11-2005, 10:31 AM

The reason that some foods are better than protein shakes is purely for the biological value of the protein.

For instance:
If a human was to eat another humans muscle tissue then this would be a perfect match to build muscle tissue from.
But as we dont do this

then we have to get our protein sources in other ways.
Chicken, eggs, red meat have the higest most matched biological value followed by whey protein. Where as nuts and seeds have a much lower protein match to what we need to build muscle.

It gets all very complicated when you start breaking it down and looking into deeper.

But I hope you get the jist of it. :o

gadgesxi · 07-11-2005, 06:36 PM

so a protein bar is better than a protein drink?

**Pscarb** · 07-11-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gadgesxi

so a protein bar is better than a protein drink?

not seen one that is yet mate...

i would always advise to eat whole foods but nowadays there are some very good Protein shakes and MRP's around....

DB- i use Extreme MRP taste great in water....

gadgesxi · 07-11-2005, 08:12 PM

is there any websites that review whey protien? im using unfalvoured whey from bulkpowders.co.uk at the mo, but i dunno if its good or not??

EXTREME · 07-11-2005, 10:39 PM

You want to look at the amino acid profile of the protein/whey you are using, people keep saying "whey is just whey", er, its not.

The different levels of processing whey effects the amino acid profile you ingest, not a plug but our whey uses 2 different concentrates and an isolate so we can get the amino acid profile we wanted.

This is why blended products should give greater gains than whey on its own.

As PSCARB says using a quality MRP gives you vits, mins, as well as protein and carbs. Again our one has 2 carb sources and 4 protein sources so is digested like a food in a time release basis. This should offer a better opportunity for absorption than just whey and maltodextrin.

When Jo won the BNBF Miss Figure this year her diet was 2 meal reps, 2 wheys and 2 solid meals, she was bone dry, ripped to fork and passed a drug and polygraph test, so living on supps did her no harm and the improvements she made in 6 months were astounding.

Ironman · 08-11-2005, 11:53 AM

Pscarb - How many calls does the extreme mrp provide?

PK GRAPPLER · 08-11-2005, 11:55 AM

It's about quality. The qulity in foods rich in protein has better qulity than shakes.

06-11-2005, 12:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Deano! Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: N.Wales Posts: 626	oh right ok then thanks pscarb mate at the moment when i get the chance im eating red meats and chicken, veg and potatoes n a lil tuna n salmon, otherwise im drinking protien shakes im just making sure if im hitting the 300-400g protien mark then i shud be ok it does have to be just from chicken or anything __________________ Big D 110.7kgs 19%bf

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DB Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,130	because foods are full of vitamins and mierals which all aid the breakdown and absorbtion of food..... foods take longer to digest than liquid shakes so its a slower release of protien.. but sayin that pscarbs looks good on what he has to fuk it... what MRP's do u use pscarb? __________________ DB To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. often imitated never duplicated To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. DB sleeps with a night light. Not because DB is afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of DB. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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07-11-2005, 10:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lauren The Lady Of The Manor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bedfordshire, UK Posts: 2,291	The reason that some foods are better than protein shakes is purely for the biological value of the protein. For instance: If a human was to eat another humans muscle tissue then this would be a perfect match to build muscle tissue from. But as we dont do this then we have to get our protein sources in other ways. Chicken, eggs, red meat have the higest most matched biological value followed by whey protein. Where as nuts and seeds have a much lower protein match to what we need to build muscle. It gets all very complicated when you start breaking it down and looking into deeper. But I hope you get the jist of it. :o __________________ "Are you a Raver?" "No, Im straight!" :love:

07-11-2005, 06:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
gadgesxi Natural Heights Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 215	so a protein bar is better than a protein drink?

07-11-2005, 08:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
gadgesxi Natural Heights Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 215	is there any websites that review whey protien? im using unfalvoured whey from bulkpowders.co.uk at the mo, but i dunno if its good or not??

07-11-2005, 10:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
EXTREME UK-Muscle Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 351	You want to look at the amino acid profile of the protein/whey you are using, people keep saying "whey is just whey", er, its not. The different levels of processing whey effects the amino acid profile you ingest, not a plug but our whey uses 2 different concentrates and an isolate so we can get the amino acid profile we wanted. This is why blended products should give greater gains than whey on its own. As PSCARB says using a quality MRP gives you vits, mins, as well as protein and carbs. Again our one has 2 carb sources and 4 protein sources so is digested like a food in a time release basis. This should offer a better opportunity for absorption than just whey and maltodextrin. When Jo won the BNBF Miss Figure this year her diet was 2 meal reps, 2 wheys and 2 solid meals, she was bone dry, ripped to fork and passed a drug and polygraph test, so living on supps did her no harm and the improvements she made in 6 months were astounding. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - almost, an unfair advantage. UK-M members 25% discount - UKM25! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Britains cheapest supplements. Dorian Yates Protein 908g £17.95 & free Dorian T-shirt!

08-11-2005, 11:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
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08-11-2005, 11:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
PK GRAPPLER Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: england Posts: 207	It's about quality. The qulity in foods rich in protein has better qulity than shakes.

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