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Old 18-10-2005, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BCAA's VS EAA's

whats the difference between these BCAA's (Branched Chain Amino Acid's) &(Essential Amino Acid's ) EAA's ?
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Old 18-10-2005, 03:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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BCAA's have the whole spectrum of branched chain amino acids including essential and non essential acids.
Where as EAA's only contain essential amino acids.

An essential amino acid for an organism is an amino acid that cannot be synthesized by the organism from other available resources, and therefore must be supplied as part of its diet.
Eight amino acids are generally regarded as essential for humans: tryptophan, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, valine, leucine, isoleucine. Two others, histidine and arginine are essential only in children. A good mnemonic device for remembering these is "Private Tim Hall", abbreviated as: PVT TIM HALL.
Which amino acids are essential, varies from species to species, as different metabolisms are able to synthesize different substances. For instance, taurine (which is not, by strict definition, an amino acid) is essential for cats, but not for dogs. Thus, dog food is not nutritionally sufficient for cats, and taurine is added to commercial cat food, but not to dog food.
The distinction between essential and non-essential amino acids is somewhat unclear, as some amino acids can be produced from others. The sulfur-containing amino acids, methionine and homocysteine, can be converted into each other but neither can be synthesized from scratch in humans. Likewise, cysteine can be made from homocysteine, but not from scratch. So, for convenience, sulfur-containing amino acids are sometimes considered a single pool of nutritionally-equivalent amino acids. Likewise arginine, ornithine, and citrulline, which are interconvertible by the urea cycle, are considered a single pool.

Foodstuffs that lack essential amino acids are poor sources of protein equivalents, as the body tends to deaminate the amino acids obtained, converting proteins into fats and carbohydrates. Therefore, a balance of essential amino acids is necessary for a high degree of net protein utilization, which is the mass ratio of amino acids converted to proteins to amino acids supplied.
The net protein utilization is profoundly affected by the limiting amino acid content (the essential amino acid found in the smallest quantity in the foodstuff), and somewhat affected by salvage of essential amino acids in the body. It is therefore a good idea to mix foodstuffs that have different weaknesses in their essential amino acid distributions. This limits the loss of nitrogen through deamination and increases overall net protein utilization.



The Amino Acids
(For each amino acid, both the three-letter and single-letter codes are given. CLICK the NAME to see the structural formula)
Alanine Ala A hydrophobic
Arginine Arg R free amino group makes it basic and hydrophilic
Asparagine Asn N carbohydrate can be covalently linked ("N-linked) to its -NH
Aspartic acid Asp D free carboxyl group makes it acidic and hydrophilic
Cysteine Cys C oxidation of their sulfhydryl (-SH) groups link 2 Cys (S-S)
Glutamic acid Glu E free carboxyl group makes it acidic and hydrophilic
Glutamine Gln Q moderately hydrophilic
Glycine Gly G so small it is amphiphilic (can exist in any surroundings)
Histidine His H basic and hydrophilic
Isoleucine Ile I hydrophobic
Leucine Leu L hydrophobic
Lysine Lys K strongly basic and hydrophilic
Methionine Met M hydrophobic
Phenylalanine Phe F very hydrophobic
Proline Pro P causes kinks in the chain
Serine Ser S carbohydrate can be covalently linked ("O-linked") to its -OH
Threonine Thr T carbohydrate can be covalently linked ("O-linked") to its -OH
Tryptophan Trp W scarce in most plant proteins
Tyrosine Tyr Y a phosphate or sulfate group can be covalently attached to its -OH
Valine Val V hydrophobic
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Old 18-10-2005, 04:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thanx for that lauren, but which would you choose as a supp? (considering i use whey and other supps)
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thanx for that lauren, but which would you choose as a supp? (considering i use whey and other supps)

I think I would use BCAA as that way you get everything in one hit. I would not use them instead of protein supplements though! But in conjunction with tbh!
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thanx for that, would you also recomend glutamine along side the BCAA or not realy?
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TBH its best to try things seperatly so you know what works for you and what you like. As otherwise you can get loads of products in and use them all at the same time, and say if only 1 out of 4 really benefit you, then your wasting your money! So its best to trial them seperately.
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TBH its best to try things seperatly so you know what works for you and what you like. As otherwise you can get loads of products in and use them all at the same time, and say if only 1 out of 4 really benefit you, then your wasting your money! So its best to trial them seperately.
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Lauren v nice info .....i agree totally wi this.......

the guy who's wing i,m under at the mo says, change or introduce one thing at a time ...that way you can moniter it better ...

common sense really but people dont do it.



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