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Old 27-02-2008, 02:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bill Starr's Intermediate 5x5

Has anyone tried this?

I'm looking to improve on my big three lifts this summer and am going to give this a try http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...Linear_5x5.htm

2.5% increase every week seems like a hell of a lot though!

Has anyone got any tips?
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Old 27-02-2008, 02:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Has anyone tried this?

I'm looking to improve on my big three lifts this summer and am going to give this a try http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...Linear_5x5.htm

2.5% increase every week seems like a hell of a lot though!

Has anyone got any tips?
Buy some small plates. You will need them.

Get plenty of rest. Eat lots of carbs.

Bring your own sick bucket to the gym.

Have a good spotter.

And Bump for a new log.
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Has anyone tried this?

I'm looking to improve on my big three lifts this summer and am going to give this a try http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...Linear_5x5.htm

2.5% increase every week seems like a hell of a lot though!

Has anyone got any tips?
Jock I'm just running the "advanced" program to see what happens. Placed some of the info in the advanced Bodybuilding section on here.

Into the second week now.
I am having to jiggle the sessions slightly as still playing competitive Rugby. So I may only get 2 sessions outa 3 in one week. the aim is to get all 3 in but don't want to be over training.

Hunger has started and I need to be consuming more Kcals...
Let me know how you get on.
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Old 27-02-2008, 07:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Bill Starr's Intermediate 5x5

I couldn't rate it high enough TBH. My big 3 lifts went up brilliantly. As TH&S said, you'll need some fractional plates like 0.5kg, 1.25kg, or even 0.25kg to ensure steady progression.
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Old 27-02-2008, 09:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I couldn't rate it high enough TBH. My big 3 lifts went up brilliantly. As TH&S said, you'll need some fractional plates like 0.5kg, 1.25kg, or even 0.25kg to ensure steady progression.
Did you put much size on with this?

I've been enjoying the "3 big lifts" lately so this routine might be right down my street at the moment.
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Old 27-02-2008, 10:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It is absolutely superb.

Any routine written by Starr/Pendlay/Madcow will be fantastic and 100x more productive than 99% of "bodybuilding" routines.
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Old 28-02-2008, 08:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Did you put much size on with this?

I've been enjoying the "3 big lifts" lately so this routine might be right down my street at the moment.

Yeah, I think I did - not a tremedous amount, but I mainly did it for strength purposes & I can't argue with it.

Fractional plates are a must though for steady progression. My gym's smallest plates are 2.5kg & to put 2.5kg each side is too big a jump when your at your maximum.
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Old 28-02-2008, 08:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It is absolutely superb.

Any routine written by Starr/Pendlay/Madcow will be fantastic and 100x more productive than 99% of "bodybuilding" routines.
more productive for what?
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Yeah, I think I did - not a tremedous amount, but I mainly did it for strength purposes & I can't argue with it.

Fractional plates are a must though for steady progression. My gym's smallest plates are 2.5kg & to put 2.5kg each side is too big a jump when your at your maximum.
Cool, thanks.

We've got 1 1/4 plates at mine or I could just add another stop on the end!

I'd like to get my big three up, but I'm mainly looking to add some quality mass before my mini summer cut
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I couldn't rate it high enough TBH. My big 3 lifts went up brilliantly. As TH&S said, you'll need some fractional plates like 0.5kg, 1.25kg, or even 0.25kg to ensure steady progression.
And what total stud muffin suggested you try the routine ? :love:

Jock give it a go bud, i have used it and will do again!

Hard work and imo you do need average to good recovery powers, but if you can recover ok awesome results.
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Jock give it a go bud, i have used it and will do again!

Hard work and imo you do need average to good recovery powers, but if you can recover ok awesome results.
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Re: Bill Starr's Intermediate 5x5

Ok Thanks guys,

I have trained 5x5 before and made good gains but never tried loading like this program recommends.

Cheers all,

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has any anyone tried these, what is your warm up like
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someone should tell ronnie coleman & every (and i mean every) big bloke i have ever seen train.
im not trying to say its rubbish or bill starr dosnt now what he is on about, im sure it is good at what it was designed to do and that was to improve strength power and add some mass for sports people, but for maximum growth the split routine which every pro bber has used for the last 40-50 years is best .
honestly are you telling me that jay cutler could be a better bber if he was squatting 3x a week and doing power cleans? im sure someone will start banging about gear or genes but these people i have used as examples have taken there physiques to the limit of what is possible and whatever the argument thay couldnt of done that on the bill starr routine and thats not what he intended it to do.
if you had said it was better at improving your power if your doing alot of other cardio type stuff like rugby then i would of agreed with you but, for everything i can agree with you.
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