Con

Coleman was one of the strongest bbs around and he was mr O for quite a while and what about Yates he didnt shy away from heavy weights.

IMO you have to go as heavy as you possibly can within your target rep range using perfect form aka slow negative no bouncing ext.

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Chris4Pez

i agree con but my point was m8 that people concentrate too much on how much weight rather than form and technique!

I am not saying don't go heavy as of course you have to go heavy as your muscles build up resistance and if you want them to grow you have to go heavier, the point i was making though is too many people do as i say just focus on more weight, more weight rather than if they are lifting that weight properly!:lift:

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BTW if thats you in the pic con nice back muscles m8 how long you been training?

Aftershock

I agree 100% go as "heavy" as you can in perfect form.

The actual weight you are using is irrelevant its just there to make you fail in the desired rep range.

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jw007

What do you mean perfect form??? one of my staple exercises for biceps is Heavy cheat curls on the olympic bar, have been known to go up to 140kg
I find this really stresses my muscles and hits all the fibres, so how do you do a perfect form cheat curl lol.

I personally get nothing from say something like concentration curls 1st exercise, to me they are akin to doing press ups, sure you get a great pump but you aint gonna get big.

Aftershock

:doh: because a cheat curl aint a dip is it dopey :love:

You have the option of dropping the bar if something goes wrong which isnt an option with dips obviously.

140kg is mighty impressive but I still think you could get just as good a workout using much less weight and cheating less, eg just cheating at the end of the set to prolong the suffering..

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jw007

lol.. yeah but i dont see how you can cheat on dips????? a dip is a dip whats a cheat dip or a dip thats not perfect form???? and im also confused about Chris4pez comment about training a muscle for shape and definition by using lighter weights???? what a load of bollox ha ha.

As for the cheat curls they sort of serve 2 purposes, 1st purpose is to train biceps (lol) 2nd purpose i use them as my first exercise so i can gauge my current strength\power levels. I generally keep all my first execises on each body part the same again to gauge my current strength\power levels. I only do 2 exercises per muscle group so the 2nd exercise i can play around with and change as to how im feeling


Ps i cant drop bar as im usually strapped to it with wrist wraps ha ha

Nytol

To me cheating on dips would involve dropping fast and trying to bounce, which is really asking for a shoulder injury, on dips my neg is slower than most of my other exercises to keep all tension on the triceps (as I do them at the end of my triceps session), so I lift as heavy as I can, but the target muscle is always the one stressed, it is never a case of seeing how much I can move from A to B.

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Aftershock

Some people have an answer for everything

I hope you are doing them in the power rack.

Agree with Nytol re the dipping form.

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jw007

My god who would do that lol, i cant see how dropping and trying to bounce on a dip is in anyway beneficial, your correct a recipe for disaster..... however the odd bounce off the chest on bench press is always good on occasion

jw007

Yeah use the squat rack so all good

shauno

how do you use a judo belt for dips?

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BLUE(UK)

Wrap it around the waist and tie it.

Personally i use a lanyard i got from the building site i was working at.

warren_1987

i never knew there was a different way to hit tri or chest , could you explain please as im new lol thanks

and im onto 5kg for my next set of dips on mon woo hoo lol

BLUE(UK)

Lean forwards and try and flare the elbows out(if you can),this will hit the chest.(or using a V-shaped dips station...face your chest into the narrower side of the bars....into the V)

Lean back and keep elbows inwards,this will hit triceps.(using the V-shaped dips station,face out of the V so opposite).