Con

Good work mate just keep very slowly adding weight deadlifts IMO are the best exercise around and not just for size but for useable power also.

dmcc

Cheers Con - I really like deads and my back is so much better now than it has been, health-wise. I know I can move that weight upwards if I just trust myself. 150 might not be far off (I hope).

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Nytol

Just keep adding the smallest amount of weight you can to the bar each week, don't get impatient, 1kg per week is 52kg per year, an exceptional gain by anyones standard.

Doing them right and building up slow will help your back no end.

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BLUE(UK)

For example,in the town i live there is two gyms,in which deadlifts can be done(other is leisure centre),i have trained at all 3 at some point or another.
In all 3 are 'geared' users as well as none geared but this isn't the issue,the issue is quite a lot of the numbers being talked about,most are 200kg+ yet i very much doubt most people are pulling 200kg+,probably more like 160kg.

ohh,i also used to Thai box in the city centre where there was also a gym and never saw many people 'pull' much more than 200kg.

I aint saying people cant pull 300kg,just that the amount of people who claim to be 'pulling' high numbers seem to be suspect.
I am not here pointing the finger at any individual since for all i know they could be full on seasoned power lifters but many also seem to feature in the bodybuilding forums hence my comments.

As for whether one would 'lift'(in any movement) more whilst using 'gear' or not is a whole new thread i would think.
I dont bash those who decide to take whatever although it may sound like i do.

Hope this clears up any misunderstandings.

Con

Hey man point some fingers you may aswell.

Nytol

I think that it is what you are around, I speak to and am around strong lifters, so for me 300kg is not a lot, and I feel I only have the start of a decent deadlift being at 300kg, and as I also said a few posts back, I know for a fact, that at least 7 of the lifters in the 300kg + group are being honest, as I know them.

IMO 220kg is achievable by pretty much anyone (male) naturally, I think I pulled it after a couple of years, at sub 14st, without too much effort.

Many people limit their progress by thinking a lift is heavy, if you go train with stronger lifters, you will find your numbers shoot up, as what was your best lift now becomes classed as a warm up.

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tommy28

i think you're spot on nytol, and i think the deadlift more than any other exercise lends itself to rapid and substantial progress in terms of weight lifted. i know myself i've added almost 80 kilos to my deadlift in a little over a year, and i'm very confident i can add another 50 by the end of 2008.

TH&S

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D: 220 | B: 140 | S: 210

Porky Pie

What is interseting is the limits one puts on oneself regards numbers.

I began powerlifting with a spot on guy who taught me a lot. He was weak and we trained in a way that way never going to realise either mine or his potential. I remember doing a 260kgs deadlift at a local BWLA South West meet and thinking I was superhuman. It was the biggest pull of the day.

Only after going to the BWLA British championships that year and watching black Dave Carter pulling about 325kgs at 90kgs did I start to think what was achievable.

When I got back to the gym, I knew sadly I had to ditch my good friend and training partner and totally re-evaluate where I was going with my training.

TH&S

Its the old addage though really isn't it - to be the best you must be with the best.

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D: 220 | B: 140 | S: 210

Nytol

Absolutely mate!

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Bobbytrickster

210 with belt and straps for 3......since my cut I've just started doing them again, am only pulling 160 now for 4!!!!!!

Must try harder, this bulk should help

Con

DAMN thats a big loss on power for a deadlift, you must have lost a lot of muscle:(

BLUE(UK)

Point fingers at who?I dont know any of the people on here and was commenting on the results of the poll based upon what i have seen in gyms by the amount people lift on the deadlift and unless this thread is mainly replied to by elite lifters(high end of the range),i stand by what i said.

As for whether the 7 can lift over 300kg,i never said they cant,i was mainly commenting on the number of people claiming higher lifts not whether an individual could do it or not.

Most of this reply is aimed at those who have replied to my first posting and not directly at just Con.

Con

Thats cool mate and fair point, i just looked at the votes and who voted out of 10 of the 300kg plus lifters i know 7 personally and all are involved in pling at a high level.
Now the 400kg plus guys hmm i dont know them so dont know what to say besides that 400kg is heavy