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Old 07-08-2006, 11:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Which lift is usualy heaviest?
Hi gang,
I have been looking at some threads here and have come to the conclusion that most ppl have a bigger deadlift than squat.

Is this normal?

My PB's are:

Bench = 140kg
Deadlift = 185kg
Squat = 210kg

As you can see my squat is way out in front of deadlifts, do you think I need to look at my lifting technique for deads (Change to sumo?).
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Old 07-08-2006, 11:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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what depth are the squats as u cant cheat on deads imo
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Old 07-08-2006, 12:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ass to the floor DEFO, I know this because I used to train with a box (Touch with my bum), and I also train with a guy who is the meanest, ugliest bass in town (He would not let me away with anything less than pararell).

What seems to let me down with deads is my grip, I feel I "Could" lift more but my wrists / fingers will not aloow me to:confused:

It might also be a factor that I do not rotate my hand grip (Both hands to the front for me).
I also lift with my feet quite close together (Not sumo).

Do you think I should go back and change my deadlift form?
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Old 07-08-2006, 12:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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try a mixed grip first of all, itll take a couple of weeks for your wrists to adapt, but the grip is much stronger, itll stop the bar 'rolling' out of your hands.

train your grip!! there is a mind muscle connection that is very finely balanced in your grip, improve the grip and the rest of the lift will follow. DONT BE TEMPTED TO USE LIFTING STRAPS!!!!

to move to sumo is a big shock for the glutes/hams/inner quad, IF you do, dont expect to lift the same weights for a good month to 6 weeks.

those are some very respectable weights you are pulling/pushing, dont put yourself down for the sake of a 25k differance between squat and dead

Ps, my squat is bigger than my deadlift too
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Ps, my squat is bigger than my deadlift too
Dam dude - but you can dead lift a combineharvester - so god knows what you can squat!!!
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Dam dude - but you can dead lift a combineharvester - so god knows what you can squat!!!
this was funny, but there is some truth in it.
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DONT BE TEMPTED TO USE LIFTING STRAPS!!!!

Why not use straps Pete ?
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Hi gang,
I have been looking at some threads here and have come to the conclusion that most ppl have a bigger deadlift than squat.

Is this normal?

My PB's are:

Bench = 140kg
Deadlift = 185kg
Squat = 210kg

As you can see my squat is way out in front of deadlifts, do you think I need to look at my lifting technique for deads (Change to sumo?).
My deadlift is more than my squats:-
Bench = 125kg
Deadlift = 170kg
Squat = 140kg

Would be great to see everyone's PB's in a thread though. Come on gang post post post !
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when I first started powerlifting my deadlift was better than my squat however now days my squat has over taken my deadlift and so now have a squat PB of 327.5 and deadlift PB of 305.
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when I first started powerlifting my deadlift was better than my squat however now days my squat has over taken my deadlift and so now have a squat PB of 327.5 and deadlift PB of 305.

i can lift more than u...


if we were talking in Lbs not KG :boohoo:
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lol DB, im sorry but it is KG not lbs
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lol DB, im sorry but it is KG not lbs

LOL damn it
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Why not use straps Pete ?
beacuse it fools your mind into thinking your grip is stronger than it actually is!

if you think, the bar is on the floor, loaded up with 195k on the bar(going on del_h PB), you just open up your gym bag pull out some straps and start wrapping them over the bar. you get into the hole, start to pull and your thinking to yourself "jeez, these are good, im gonna pull until i cant pull anymore cos my grip is soooo good" as your getting the bar past your knees suddenly things are gettin harder and POP!!!!!!!!! something happens in your lower back!

you drop the bar back down to the floor, but the straps are still attatched wrenching you to the floor with it! jarring you when the bar makes contact and possibly causing that little more damage!!

get my drift?

if you have an injury to your hand, then go for it, just realise your limits. and if its the end of your session and your repping out on shrugs and your grip is going (purely from time-under-tension), then i personally consider them to be fine, but if your closing or beating your max on a big compound move like deadlifts then steer well clear


Ps, i learned the hard way, and my back still gives me problems
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Damm, I do use straps for my heaviest set. I might now reconsider this.....


By the way Pete, I also use knee wraps for my heaviest squat lifts (And belt). Do you advise against these too???

PS Man you lift some CRAZY weight, I am one of the stronger guys in my gym but your lifts make my PBs look like warm ups LOL
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damn, looks lke my lifts are the weakest here :(

DOH!

im getting there tho! i try to keep everything strict form and deep (squats) so i cant lift that much! i do use straps as im not realy much out for strength, more concerned with size, so if ur growing then ur good! imo
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