Sumo Stance??? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

damagedgoods · 26-09-2005, 11:14 AM

guys -
I've chaged the gym I go to at weekends - it seems there are lsots of competative lifters there... and I was watching them doing deadlift... a number of them were using sumo stance... I has a quick chat with them and they were saying that it has allowed them to lift much heavier....

What do you lot think???

**big pete** · 26-09-2005, 11:19 AM

i do sumo. toes are about 3" in from the plates, and yeah, i find i can lift alot heavier than using a narrow stance

damagedgoods · 26-09-2005, 11:34 AM

How woudl this work for BB'ing??? would conventional stance be better?

chris jenkins · 26-09-2005, 11:52 AM

Yes, it depends on your body mechanics buddy. Do you have a long torso, long arms? short arms, short torso?? for a lifter with short arms its best to use a sumo stance as you have less distance to travel. With sumo stance you tend to use more hips and inner thigh, so if you are going to use this stance it would be wise to squat wide and heavy to strengthen that area.

I lift conventional at the moment because it suits my body, short torso long arms. A friend of mine has recently switched from conventional to sumo and his deadlifted jumped from 270kgs to 295kgs. He also doesnt hitch the weight up anymore with the sumo as apposed to the conventional. I hope that helps my friend.....

samurai69 · 26-09-2005, 06:39 PM

I tried sumo the other day after listening to cj and jh

Managed a good off the rack 190kg usual stance full dead is 210. so i reckon with a couple more sessions a good 220 is on the cards sumo style

PK GRAPPLER · 26-09-2005, 06:47 PM

When I do sqats I point my feet inward I feel this streeses the muscle much more then with your feet stright. My big bro give me this tip. Is this benificial or not.

**big pete** · 26-09-2005, 08:14 PM

PK, il stress your knees more than they should have to cope with. toes pointin outwards very slightly takes alot of tension off the joint

Chris, hows justin gettin on with the sumo? ho do you like it down the empire?

Justin Hurley · 26-09-2005, 09:51 PM

I'm loving the sumo stance, like Chris said gone from 275-295kg. Going to break that 300kg barrier any day now, big milestone for me.

Empire is cracking gym, downstairs is for the serious lifters and it's inspirational training with top powerlifters and training along side top olympic lifters. I love watching those guys putting silly numbers above their head.

I like to have my stance exactly as wide as my squat stance. My legs are just inside the smooth rings on the bar.
I grab on to the bar and just treat it as squatting the bar up, but with it in my hands. I dip my ass right prior to lifting, just like when your in the hole for squatting. It tightens the suit up and you can drive up just like your squatting (pushing back with your head).
Unlike conventional, your hands rub up the suit at lock out, so make sure your grip is strong. That's something I need to work on.

Also at first it seems like the only part of your body that's feeling the pain, is the hip flexors, but they soon catch up.

damagedgoods · 27-09-2005, 08:49 AM

This is good info thx guys -

I am just wondering about how it will work for BB'ing - it is great to be abel to lift more- but ultimately if you are wantoing to do bodybuild the main thing is development.. how will this affect you putting on size???

Also is the same true with sumo stance for Squatting?

bwl · 09-03-2006, 05:56 PM

have often thought of doing sumo. being 5ft5 and around 145kg i have a lot of lower body strength and want to build my upper body strength. would love to give it a go !

mrmasive · 09-03-2006, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big pete

PK, il stress your knees more than they should have to cope with. toes pointin outwards very slightly takes alot of tension off the joint

Hell yeah, toes ot at about 20 degrees....

Toes pointing in, OUCH...

tkd · 19-03-2006, 12:25 AM

sumo stance allows you to lift heavier because your going through a shorter range of motion and more muscles in your legs support the lift

**Robsta** · 19-03-2006, 01:08 AM

you weigh 145 kg mate, wow, that's some weight, what's your bf%. At 5'5" that's big, I thought I was good at 100 kg and 5'4"

Ellis · 22-03-2006, 08:12 PM

yeah I think sumo is easier, better leverage. PB conventional 275kg PB sumo 305kg @ 105.

meera · 22-03-2006, 09:11 PM

Great read there...thanks.

26-09-2005, 11:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
damagedgoods Looking Freaky Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wisbech Posts: 763	Sumo Stance??? guys - I've chaged the gym I go to at weekends - it seems there are lsots of competative lifters there... and I was watching them doing deadlift... a number of them were using sumo stance... I has a quick chat with them and they were saying that it has allowed them to lift much heavier.... What do you lot think???

26-09-2005, 11:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
big pete UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: south midlands Posts: 3,797	i do sumo. toes are about 3" in from the plates, and yeah, i find i can lift alot heavier than using a narrow stance __________________ any questions?? feel free to email me on.... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 'there is greatness inside all of us, how deep are you willing to dig? '

26-09-2005, 08:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
big pete UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: south midlands Posts: 3,797	PK, il stress your knees more than they should have to cope with. toes pointin outwards very slightly takes alot of tension off the joint Chris, hows justin gettin on with the sumo? ho do you like it down the empire? __________________ any questions?? feel free to email me on.... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 'there is greatness inside all of us, how deep are you willing to dig? '

26-09-2005, 09:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
Justin Hurley Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 72	I'm loving the sumo stance, like Chris said gone from 275-295kg. Going to break that 300kg barrier any day now, big milestone for me. Empire is cracking gym, downstairs is for the serious lifters and it's inspirational training with top powerlifters and training along side top olympic lifters. I love watching those guys putting silly numbers above their head. I like to have my stance exactly as wide as my squat stance. My legs are just inside the smooth rings on the bar. I grab on to the bar and just treat it as squatting the bar up, but with it in my hands. I dip my ass right prior to lifting, just like when your in the hole for squatting. It tightens the suit up and you can drive up just like your squatting (pushing back with your head). Unlike conventional, your hands rub up the suit at lock out, so make sure your grip is strong. That's something I need to work on. Also at first it seems like the only part of your body that's feeling the pain, is the hip flexors, but they soon catch up. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

19-03-2006, 01:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
Robsta UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In The Shire Posts: 5,326	you weigh 145 kg mate, wow, that's some weight, what's your bf%. At 5'5" that's big, I thought I was good at 100 kg and 5'4" __________________ Robsta

26-09-2005, 11:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
damagedgoods Looking Freaky Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wisbech Posts: 763	How woudl this work for BB'ing??? would conventional stance be better?

26-09-2005, 11:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
chris jenkins Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 733	Yes, it depends on your body mechanics buddy. Do you have a long torso, long arms? short arms, short torso?? for a lifter with short arms its best to use a sumo stance as you have less distance to travel. With sumo stance you tend to use more hips and inner thigh, so if you are going to use this stance it would be wise to squat wide and heavy to strengthen that area. I lift conventional at the moment because it suits my body, short torso long arms. A friend of mine has recently switched from conventional to sumo and his deadlifted jumped from 270kgs to 295kgs. He also doesnt hitch the weight up anymore with the sumo as apposed to the conventional. I hope that helps my friend.....

26-09-2005, 06:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
samurai69 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mid Portugal - by the sea Posts: 3,076	I tried sumo the other day after listening to cj and jh Managed a good off the rack 190kg usual stance full dead is 210. so i reckon with a couple more sessions a good 220 is on the cards sumo style

26-09-2005, 06:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
PK GRAPPLER Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: england Posts: 207	When I do sqats I point my feet inward I feel this streeses the muscle much more then with your feet stright. My big bro give me this tip. Is this benificial or not.

27-09-2005, 08:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
damagedgoods Looking Freaky Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wisbech Posts: 763	This is good info thx guys - I am just wondering about how it will work for BB'ing - it is great to be abel to lift more- but ultimately if you are wantoing to do bodybuild the main thing is development.. how will this affect you putting on size??? Also is the same true with sumo stance for Squatting?

09-03-2006, 05:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
bwl Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: south wales Posts: 42	have often thought of doing sumo. being 5ft5 and around 145kg i have a lot of lower body strength and want to build my upper body strength. would love to give it a go !

19-03-2006, 12:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
tkd Looking Freaky Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 547	sumo stance allows you to lift heavier because your going through a shorter range of motion and more muscles in your legs support the lift

22-03-2006, 08:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ellis Looking Freaky Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 794	yeah I think sumo is easier, better leverage. PB conventional 275kg PB sumo 305kg @ 105.

22-03-2006, 09:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
meera CEE...mmmmmm Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 299	Great read there...thanks. __________________ Ain't noone in this world like a Bruce....