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Old 28-04-2006, 03:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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funny thing is that i was shut down hard by Deca, but 4 months later my prolactin is very low and progesterone is low too. ???
I know 3 people personally that I talk to have had severe shutdown from Deca.
One guy in perticular in his 50's kept asking me about Deca.
I told him to do test instead but he would not listen.
Deca only low dose shut him down hard.
Poor guy has zero sex drive and it was fairly high before.
Same doc I went to put him on TRT.
What a joke in light of current protocols that might bring him back only to leave a normal life.
Now, the hastle of TRT and trying to ballance hormones for life.

I told that dude not to do it, he did it anyway and now he is jacked up.

I seriously need to talk to this dude and clue him in on what I am doing.
My recovery is going flawless and much better than planned.
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Old 28-04-2006, 07:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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HCG dosage

I noticed that earlier on this thread you felt pretty strongly about not going too high w/ the HCG dosages (according to Swale's advice). I see you later went w/ Scally's protocol and a MUCH higher dosage (2500 iu's) and have found success apparently. Do you think a smaller dose, but still higher than 500iu's would still work.. Everyone is different and I don't want to risk leydig cell desensitization, y'know ?
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I noticed that earlier on this thread you felt pretty strongly about not going too high w/ the HCG dosages (according to Swale's advice). I see you later went w/ Scally's protocol and a MUCH higher dosage (2500 iu's) and have found success apparently. Do you think a smaller dose, but still higher than 500iu's would still work.. Everyone is different and I don't want to risk leydig cell desensitization, y'know ?
Yes I do.
I think there are many factors here, age being one of them
Like recovery of muscles I feel that the younger guys can take more, recover faster and have less injuries on gear.
This is just something I feel and might not be true but just what I feel.

The testicles really are the key to recovery.
Most people use clomid and or nolva, it is the function of the nuts that determine recovery.
I have heard that LH comes back fairly quickly where test production does not.
This I feel is a direct reflection (function or lack there of) of recovery.
After all if the nuts are not rolling along what is the point to jump start the hypothalamus and pituitary?

All I know 500 a day didnt do much to help me recover and that would equate to around 1000 every two days, where as 2500 is just over twice that and the impact was massive.

I am 6 days from the last shot and nuts are hanging low and heavy, they are full size so I know they are back, not its just a matter of a few weeks and I will be done.
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