Beginners; there is no need to over-complicate cycles. - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Noodlenex · 27-04-2005, 03:46 PM

This was a QUALITY post by Biker made quite a while back which used to be sticky in the steroids forum, which imo needs to be somewhere for newbies to read as it helped me out a lot when I started. Feel free to add more helpful info!

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Back to Basics! Many beginners over complicate cycles these are all perfectly good simple cycles!

ED = every day
EOD = every other day

In order of experience from no experience to regular user.

1. Ideal first time user. Oral Only

Dianabol 8 weeks at 40mg ED (half dose on the last week)
1 x Nolva EOD
Clomid therapy commences the day after you finish Dianabol.

2. Test and Dianabol – this should be good for a few cycles, some never feel the need to increase beyond doses like this!

8 weeks of Testosterone (sustanon, cypionate or enanthate) 500mg a week
8 weeks of Dianabol taken as per cycle 1
1 x Nolva EOD
Clomid therapy commences 2 weeks after last shot of cyp or enanth, 3 weeks after sust.

3. Test Deca/EQ

8 weeks of Testosterone (sustanon, cypionate or enanthate) 500mg a week
8 weeks of Deca or EQ at 300mg a week (can be increased to 400mg a few cycles down the line.)
You can also add (although it’s no bad thing to have a break from orals occasionally) 8 weeks of Dianabol taken as per cycle 1
1 x Nolva EOD
Clomid therapy commences 3 weeks after last shot of deca

By Biker the drink spiker

vanzant7777 · 04-11-2005, 09:24 PM

Im a new in dbols (first user) and I have it in my hand, what do you think I shoul expect, and will I kep my gains , thanks

**hackskii** · 04-11-2005, 10:33 PM

Expect some weight gains on d-bol, it made me gain weight more than any other gear.
Does tend to hold water tho, but great for strength (to me).
It seemed to give me an overproduction of yeast for some reason (probably diet related).

Keeping your gains, sleep, diet, lift, PCT, creatine.

get_bigger · 26-05-2007, 05:15 PM

i found it destroyed my mojo, couldnt get it up aged 20!!!
but with good diet and pct you will enjoy.

one thing i will point out is that it might be a good idea to take 100omg of milk thistle (holland and barret) along with this cycle everyday, and loads of water.

rule of thumb: if you urine is not clear then your not getting enough water.

D-Fekt · 05-10-2007, 10:10 AM

Sup dude! I'm just planning my first Deca stand alone cycle and am looking for some advice i.e Dosage, PCT etc. Also how do you rate a Just Deca cycle? Because of my job PT and Gym Instructor i can't get too big too fast (Thats why i've used Deca only). Can you gimme any advice?
Nice one! - D-Fekt (Newbie):lift:

**hackskii** · 05-10-2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Fekt

Sup dude! I'm just planning my first Deca stand alone cycle and am looking for some advice i.e Dosage, PCT etc. Also how do you rate a Just Deca cycle? Because of my job PT and Gym Instructor i can't get too big too fast (Thats why i've used Deca only). Can you gimme any advice?
Nice one! - D-Fekt (Newbie):lift:

Deca only cycles I would never recommend, for a number of reasons.
Test rocks

u2mr2 · 08-10-2007, 04:20 PM

Also, for a first cycle, doesn't 40mg of dbol everyday seem like a lot?

**hackskii** · 09-10-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u2mr2

Also, for a first cycle, doesn't 40mg of dbol everyday seem like a lot?

Not if you want a nice set of tits.

u2mr2 · 11-10-2007, 10:49 AM

haha

I really want to fill a bra!

Biker · 11-10-2007, 11:56 AM

god that's from years ago... can't say I would agree with my thoughts on it anymore

in fact I've just done a search it was 2004 http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...te-cycles.html

I wouldn't even recommend using that much now for early cycles, and the PCT times are wrong lol

**hackskii** · 11-10-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biker

god that's from years ago... can't say I would agree with my thoughts on it anymore

in fact I've just done a search it was 2004 http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...te-cycles.html

I wouldn't even recommend using that much now for early cycles, and the PCT times are wrong lol

Blast from the past Biker, I remember that thread.

27-04-2005, 03:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Noodlenex Gym Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 133	Beginners; there is no need to over-complicate cycles. This was a QUALITY post by Biker made quite a while back which used to be sticky in the steroids forum, which imo needs to be somewhere for newbies to read as it helped me out a lot when I started. Feel free to add more helpful info! -------------------------------------------------------- Back to Basics! Many beginners over complicate cycles these are all perfectly good simple cycles! ED = every day EOD = every other day In order of experience from no experience to regular user. 1. Ideal first time user. Oral Only Dianabol 8 weeks at 40mg ED (half dose on the last week) 1 x Nolva EOD Clomid therapy commences the day after you finish Dianabol. 2. Test and Dianabol – this should be good for a few cycles, some never feel the need to increase beyond doses like this! 8 weeks of Testosterone (sustanon, cypionate or enanthate) 500mg a week 8 weeks of Dianabol taken as per cycle 1 1 x Nolva EOD Clomid therapy commences 2 weeks after last shot of cyp or enanth, 3 weeks after sust. 3. Test Deca/EQ 8 weeks of Testosterone (sustanon, cypionate or enanthate) 500mg a week 8 weeks of Deca or EQ at 300mg a week (can be increased to 400mg a few cycles down the line.) You can also add (although it’s no bad thing to have a break from orals occasionally) 8 weeks of Dianabol taken as per cycle 1 1 x Nolva EOD Clomid therapy commences 3 weeks after last shot of deca By Biker the drink spiker

04-11-2005, 10:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,676	Expect some weight gains on d-bol, it made me gain weight more than any other gear. Does tend to hold water tho, but great for strength (to me). It seemed to give me an overproduction of yeast for some reason (probably diet related). Keeping your gains, sleep, diet, lift, PCT, creatine. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

26-05-2007, 05:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
get_bigger Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 33	Re: Beginners; there is no need to over-complicate cycles. i found it destroyed my mojo, couldnt get it up aged 20!!! but with good diet and pct you will enjoy. one thing i will point out is that it might be a good idea to take 100omg of milk thistle (holland and barret) along with this cycle everyday, and loads of water. rule of thumb: if you urine is not clear then your not getting enough water.

05-10-2007, 10:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
D-Fekt Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 10	1st Deca cycle. Sup dude! I'm just planning my first Deca stand alone cycle and am looking for some advice i.e Dosage, PCT etc. Also how do you rate a Just Deca cycle? Because of my job PT and Gym Instructor i can't get too big too fast (Thats why i've used Deca only). Can you gimme any advice? Nice one! - D-Fekt (Newbie):lift:

08-10-2007, 04:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
u2mr2 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 96	Re: Beginners; there is no need to over-complicate cycles. Also, for a first cycle, doesn't 40mg of dbol everyday seem like a lot?

04-11-2005, 09:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
vanzant7777 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3	Im a new in dbols (first user) and I have it in my hand, what do you think I shoul expect, and will I kep my gains , thanks

11-10-2007, 10:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
u2mr2 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 96	Re: Beginners; there is no need to over-complicate cycles. haha I really want to fill a bra!

11-10-2007, 11:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
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