Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry - Page 2 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

alz · 15-10-2008, 11:50 AM

Im an NHS professional and i can tell you now alcohol swabs alone do not kill off all bacteria present on the skin, in part mainly due to resistancies of new, stronger strains. In NHS establishments we now use chlorhexidine AND alcohol based swabs to remove all bacteria present from the surface of the skin before injecting any drug, even when sampling blood we must prepare the skin with these new and far more effective swabs. In clinical trials the chemicals seem to work far more effectively together than alone. Site preparation is taken very seriously to prevent any possibility of infection, and re-using a needle is a disciplinary offence, basically its a sure fire way to get an infection and possibly something more serious. Back to the original post, excellent although im not sure advocating mini self operations such as aspirations is a good idea but i guess its up to the individual. GP or A&E would be my preference every time. Just remember the three signs of infection...heat, pain and swelling. All three together are a 99.9% guarantee that there is an infection process going on which will more than likely need antiobitic therapy and in worse cases incision and drainage by a professional under aseptic technique. Prepare the site properly with an adequate solution, rotate the site frequently, re sheath the needle after drawing up the solution and NEVER re -use a needle. Follow these simple steps as we do in the NHS and you will dramatically reduce your risk of a more serious pain in the ass.

redman · 17-10-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alz

Im an NHS professional and i can tell you now alcohol swabs alone do not kill off all bacteria present on the skin, in part mainly due to resistancies of new, stronger strains. In NHS establishments we now use chlorhexidine AND alcohol based swabs to remove all bacteria present from the surface of the skin before injecting any drug, even when sampling blood we must prepare the skin with these new and far more effective swabs. In clinical trials the chemicals seem to work far more effectively together than alone. Site preparation is taken very seriously to prevent any possibility of infection, and re-using a needle is a disciplinary offence, basically its a sure fire way to get an infection and possibly something more serious. Back to the original post, excellent although im not sure advocating mini self operations such as aspirations is a good idea but i guess its up to the individual. GP or A&E would be my preference every time. Just remember the three signs of infection...heat, pain and swelling. All three together are a 99.9% guarantee that there is an infection process going on which will more than likely need antiobitic therapy and in worse cases incision and drainage by a professional under aseptic technique. Prepare the site properly with an adequate solution, rotate the site frequently, re sheath the needle after drawing up the solution and NEVER re -use a needle. Follow these simple steps as we do in the NHS and you will dramatically reduce your risk of a more serious pain in the ass.

Nice post reps,

Are these swabs available to the average joe on the street if so please provide a link sir.

As for self aspiration I am a huge advocate as the vast majority of GPs will just use anti-Bs which often fail due the lack of permeability of the cyst. I would rather have a small hole than a cut and drain.

newtolondon · 03-11-2008, 05:11 PM

if you want needles or swabs or anything like that www.medisave.co.uk is a useful website you can basically get anything legal on there thats for medical professionals.

redman · 03-11-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by newtolondon

if you want needles or swabs or anything like that www.medisave.co.uk is a useful website you can basically get anything legal on there thats for medical professionals.

They just sell standard iso alcohol wipes mate, I wnt the one mentioned in the post if at all possible.

crazypaver1 · 03-12-2008, 12:12 AM

i injected in my glute sunday and about half an hour later i had a pain in my muscle if i bend my leg or lie on it, is this just becouse its my first injection in a few months or what? thanks

crazypaver1 · 13-12-2008, 07:05 PM

i forgot to mention that i was injecting sust, that is prob wot the pain is from right?

Prodiver · 13-12-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crazypaver1

i forgot to mention that i was injecting sust, that is prob wot the pain is from right?

What type of Sus? It could well the cause.

Was the jab itself clean and painless?

meera · 13-12-2008, 07:20 PM

Useful information there. I wish I had come across this when I did my first cycle.

crazypaver1 · 13-12-2008, 07:36 PM

no pain when injecting just about half hour after it and lasts for few days, if i put my knee up to a rite angle i can feel pain in the muscle, is oragon in 1ml glass amps and cant sleep and feel very ill on nite of injection????

Prodiver · 13-12-2008, 09:10 PM

Ache sounds about right - not sure about feeling very ill that night.
Post a pic of the amps in the right section and get the old hands to suss it for you...

crazypaver1 · 14-12-2008, 01:07 PM

Thats my sust but my last cycle was sust and deca, it mite just be as it is only sust this time

crazypaver1 · 20-12-2008, 07:49 PM

BUMP!

Prodiver · 20-12-2008, 08:02 PM

Looks OK. Some guys find one of the esters in Sus a bit achey...

When you inject get the needle tip not less than 1 inch into the muscle, aspirate, if there's no blood in the syringe inject slowly, and after withdrawing the needle massage the site well like you would a bruise to disperse the gear...

HTH

crazypaver1 · 21-12-2008, 08:16 PM

thanks, also i did my glute myself for first time and it starting hurting as soon as i took it out but i was butchering it a bit as i never done it before by bird normally does it

crazypaver1 · 25-12-2008, 11:46 AM

H i all, when after injecting fake gear should anyone notice effects from it as in pain, burning or other?

15-10-2008, 11:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
alz Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cheshire as in the cat Posts: 24	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry Im an NHS professional and i can tell you now alcohol swabs alone do not kill off all bacteria present on the skin, in part mainly due to resistancies of new, stronger strains. In NHS establishments we now use chlorhexidine AND alcohol based swabs to remove all bacteria present from the surface of the skin before injecting any drug, even when sampling blood we must prepare the skin with these new and far more effective swabs. In clinical trials the chemicals seem to work far more effectively together than alone. Site preparation is taken very seriously to prevent any possibility of infection, and re-using a needle is a disciplinary offence, basically its a sure fire way to get an infection and possibly something more serious. Back to the original post, excellent although im not sure advocating mini self operations such as aspirations is a good idea but i guess its up to the individual. GP or A&E would be my preference every time. Just remember the three signs of infection...heat, pain and swelling. All three together are a 99.9% guarantee that there is an infection process going on which will more than likely need antiobitic therapy and in worse cases incision and drainage by a professional under aseptic technique. Prepare the site properly with an adequate solution, rotate the site frequently, re sheath the needle after drawing up the solution and NEVER re -use a needle. Follow these simple steps as we do in the NHS and you will dramatically reduce your risk of a more serious pain in the ass. Last edited by alz; 15-10-2008 at 12:00 PM.

03-11-2008, 05:11 PM	#18 (permalink)
newtolondon Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry if you want needles or swabs or anything like that www.medisave.co.uk is a useful website you can basically get anything legal on there thats for medical professionals.

03-12-2008, 12:12 AM	#20 (permalink)
crazypaver1 BODY LIKE BAYWATCH! FACE LIKE CRIMEWATCH! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: uk Posts: 635	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry i injected in my glute sunday and about half an hour later i had a pain in my muscle if i bend my leg or lie on it, is this just becouse its my first injection in a few months or what? thanks

13-12-2008, 07:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
crazypaver1 BODY LIKE BAYWATCH! FACE LIKE CRIMEWATCH! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: uk Posts: 635	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry i forgot to mention that i was injecting sust, that is prob wot the pain is from right?

13-12-2008, 07:20 PM	#23 (permalink)
meera Wannabe Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK Posts: 310	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry Useful information there. I wish I had come across this when I did my first cycle.

13-12-2008, 07:36 PM	#24 (permalink)
crazypaver1 BODY LIKE BAYWATCH! FACE LIKE CRIMEWATCH! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: uk Posts: 635	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry no pain when injecting just about half hour after it and lasts for few days, if i put my knee up to a rite angle i can feel pain in the muscle, is oragon in 1ml glass amps and cant sleep and feel very ill on nite of injection????

13-12-2008, 09:10 PM	#25 (permalink)
Prodiver Unless you're a bodybuilder you only rent food Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colchester UK Posts: 4,828	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry Ache sounds about right - not sure about feeling very ill that night. Post a pic of the amps in the right section and get the old hands to suss it for you...

14-12-2008, 01:07 PM	#26 (permalink)
crazypaver1 BODY LIKE BAYWATCH! FACE LIKE CRIMEWATCH! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: uk Posts: 635	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry Thats my sust but my last cycle was sust and deca, it mite just be as it is only sust this time

20-12-2008, 07:49 PM	#27 (permalink)
crazypaver1 BODY LIKE BAYWATCH! FACE LIKE CRIMEWATCH! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: uk Posts: 635	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry BUMP!

20-12-2008, 08:02 PM	#28 (permalink)
Prodiver Unless you're a bodybuilder you only rent food Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colchester UK Posts: 4,828	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry Looks OK. Some guys find one of the esters in Sus a bit achey... When you inject get the needle tip not less than 1 inch into the muscle, aspirate, if there's no blood in the syringe inject slowly, and after withdrawing the needle massage the site well like you would a bruise to disperse the gear... HTH

21-12-2008, 08:16 PM	#29 (permalink)
crazypaver1 BODY LIKE BAYWATCH! FACE LIKE CRIMEWATCH! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: uk Posts: 635	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry thanks, also i did my glute myself for first time and it starting hurting as soon as i took it out but i was butchering it a bit as i never done it before by bird normally does it

25-12-2008, 11:46 AM	#30 (permalink)
crazypaver1 BODY LIKE BAYWATCH! FACE LIKE CRIMEWATCH! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: uk Posts: 635	Re: Post Injection Pain: The causes and when to worry H i all, when after injecting fake gear should anyone notice effects from it as in pain, burning or other?