olliep

How strict do you have to be with your diet when your on gear?
Is it full on for the length of the cycle etc. Or are you able to have a cheat day here and there.

Im not training for a contest so are you allowed to be fairly easy going with yourself.

Peter V

To be honest it doesn't matter. What I mean by that is - the better and bigger you eat, the better your gains. But if you eat badly, or not enough, you will gain only a little, but won't lose muscle like you might if you messed up your diet without gear.

Ideally you'd make the most of your cycle and eat well throughout, upping the calories several times when gains slow down.

Lois_Lane

Lipid values can change quite negatively on steroids and a poor diet can speed this up quite a bit. IMO you can eat basically any type of food you like its just about preparing it your self so its not full of poor rubbish. Lots of healthy fats, proteins, slow carbs and few sugars as these raise ldl quickly.

Jesus

I usually have a cheat meal once a week with no issues, but my diets been shocking for the last week and a bit, i'm now starting to look like a barrel with legs. Time to sort my **** out and up the cardio.

Dan

Bit off topic, but here's your dad http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/members/god/

jw007

post from uki

only 4% of our circulating cholesterol comes from our diet, the other 96%
is from stress mate. Our bodies use cholesterol to manufacture the sex hormones
as well as the stress hormones, so if you have high cholesterol, avoiding
cholesterol foods will do nothing to lower your blood cholesterol, better to do
some stress relieving exercises and back off on training a bit. We can be
effected by both, emotional stress and physical stress, most people i encounter
are people who over-train, once they back off on their training they usually
have normla cholesterol levels again. I usually get people to train around
their resting temperatures, why? becausze if your resting temps are down that
means your cortisol levels are high, which we knows means we have high stress
hormone levels.

Basically if your resting temps from one day to the next were down by .5 deg i
would not train that day, you are in a catabolic state, and we know that we
acannot grow in a catabolic state, furthermore, resting that one day almost
always returns the rresting temps back to the normal range the following
morning.

The thyroid and adrenals both compete for tyrosine to manufacture their
hormones, so if you have high cortisol levels then they are gobbling up all the
tyrosine, that is why we will have a lowered thyroid function, your temperatures
don't lie.

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Lois_Lane

Good post by Mallet there J.
However on gear the chance of ldl going up quickly and hld dropping quickly increases a lot so being a bit more vary would be a good idea.
I mainly speak about large amounts of simple carbs at once which have been shown to really raise ldl dramatically.
Dietary cholesterol is not such a big concern...

jw007

I learnt lots from that post..

Saying that, You know how unhealthy I live, In the untold blood tests I have had of late, my ldl and hdl were super good,
renal dude even commented he was suprised???

A lot is genetic i think

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Lois_Lane

Lucky there.
My hdl was a bit low and ldl a bit high last time i checked which was a while ago...lol.

Dean00

so what diet would you say would be perfect for a 93kg bodybuilder going on cycle?
just macros say..

Lois_Lane

I like 1 gram protein .5 gram fat 1 gram carb so basically a divided into 3 equally diet.

40 protein, 40 carb, 20 fat per meal is a good place to go from start with 6 meals once your weight stops going up make it 7 meals then 8. If you can't gain with that some thing is wrong IMO. After training if you wish you can double the carbs and drop the fats but i prefer to have a normal balanced meal after training. I don't buy into the whey/fast carb shake stuff any more......