joshsworld23

First time posting. Okay guys heres where im at. Im 23 years of age and 160lbs. I have aboue 10 pounds of stomach fat id say i want to get rid of. I have a pretty decent diet and exercise plan. I want to take a cycle of steroids of d-bol or stanabol. I want to get bigger but i want to get an over all hard look as well. What i really want to know is what is a good cycle for me to take and a good supplement/over the counter pct to take. Im in the U.S. So the more things i can get legally the better. Also guys im new to this forum and havent really caught on with all the abreveations you guys use so please tell me exactly what they are. All im worried about is the gyno and the shrinkage of my balls. Thats what i want to prevent. haha. thanks.

big

How tall are you, and how long have you been training for.

IMO at 160lbs (unless you're extremely short), you shouldn't be needing steroids yet. Just a lot of good foods and a good training routine.

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shovel man

there is a thread on this site with all the abreveations on somewere but realy you need to give alot more info about yourself ie-diet & training so as to give info thats gona be beneficial to you

joshsworld23

Ok sorry im 5'7". Iv been eating oat meal in the mornings. for lunch ill try to eat something grilled and a veggie, i cant always get that due to the nature of where i work. At night i try to eat something grilled again if avaliable with vegitables. If not ill eat tuna fish. All i usually drink is water or milk. Ill take protein shakes usually after a work out but not all the time. I work out 5 days a week. I do or try to do 45 mins of running after each work out session. I also work out at night. In the morning to kinda kick start my day ill run or walk a mile depending on how feel. Im not sure if it helps or not but i do it to try and get me motivated for the day. Im a small frame guy. Id love to be about 155 maybe 160 solid if all possible with some decent size. Im not looking to be the strongest guy in the world but id like to gain some strength. Im really looking to get my body to look healthy, fit, and cut with a little more size. Hope this helps.

verve

Mate, no offence but I don't think you should be thinking about roids. Dunno how long you've been training, but I would say you want 3 years of natural training before considering any chemical assistance. Post up your training split and diet in more detail in the other sections and we'll have a look at it for you. Almost anyone can put on a decent amount of muscle naturally, so try and fulfil your natural potential first of all. I would also say probably best not to do cardio first thing after a workout. I don't work out as often as 5 days a week, your body grows when you're resting not in the gym, remember that. If you're just starting out you will be alright with a 3day split focusing on compound exercises IMO.

Welcome to the site, hope you stick around.

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JSM

Here are my thoughts. I am by no means an expert on the juice yet. Far from it actually. The rest of the board can assist you in that but from what I hear and correct me if I a wrong. You are currently 160lbs and have about what you think is 10lbs of fat around your midsection. You have also stated that you want to look a little more solid and have some more strength. I think this is all about your diet. You are trying to lose 10lbs of fat and gain 10lbs of muslce. That would put your towards your goal of looking leaner and stronger. There are other sections of the forum obviously for diet and nutrition but most important no matter what you are trying to do gain weight or lose weight while working out you need to keep your protein high. I think a good number to measure your daily protein intake should be your bodyweight x 2. I am about 210 but my goal is about 230 so I eat enough protein for 230lb person. A lot of protein yes but I am also taking a shake with each meal. If you are trying to lose weight you need watch your carbs. i wouldn't have them too low though because you want your body to stay in an anabolic state (state ideal for building muscle). So make sure you are getting 5-6 meals a day of moderate carbs and high protein. I would think it is mandatory for a shake after you workout. That is the most important time for your muslces to feed on protein. I just don't think you are ready for juice. It might seem like the easy way out but no one ever said this was easy or happens overnight. If that was the case everybody would like great. You get my point. Diet and working out natural at this point needs to be your goal. This goal is most definitley attainable quicker than you may think going the natural route. Sorry if I went on and on, I can get carried away.

JSM

One more thing for you to think about. If I remember correctly you are 17 right. Not to scare you but read number 3 here this is why you should second thought taking the juice at your young age. Just trying to help!

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7800

Timmy Smooth

Hi. Good advice here.

joshsworld23

Im 23 not 17.

JSM

Yes my fault you did state you were 23. Anyways I would stick to the plan I suggested just for the simple fact that the gains you may think. I just don't think juice is the answer here. Now if you have a few years of good fundamental training and have put on a good base and you want to bulk up some more then maybe juice is something you could think about. Anyways diet and training comes first no matter what path you choose.