new cycle for next month. - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Bazzamax · 08-07-2005, 11:47 AM

Hi All,
I'm going to be starting a new cycle in a few weeks now, I want it to be a bulking cycle.
My last cycle which consisted of tnt350,test enanth,proviron with viro and bold prop to finish was good..I never had much of an appetite so my diet was not great,
I finished up the same weight but a lot leaner and smaller waist.

My next cycle is going to be something like this:

weeks 1,2 and 3 : 50 mgs Oxy's ed
500mg Sust pw
400 mg Deca pw.

weeks 4,5,6 and 7: 750 mgs test enanth pw
500 mgs equipoise pw.

weeks 8 and 9: 500 mg Test enanth pw
2ml (700mg) tnt350 pw.

weeks 10,11 and 12 :100mgs test prop eod.

I have read jimmy's posts about changing compounds throughout and I'm gonna try this..

If anyone notices anything I should change let me know.

All the best,
Bazza.

**Pscarb** · 08-07-2005, 01:23 PM

looks ok but why are you only doing the Deca for 3 weeks...

i agree with Jimmy on switching compounds but i have found this to be more effective if you just switch the test ester.
imo you need a base i have a base of normally Deca or EQ on all of my off season courses...

stocky121 · 08-07-2005, 01:55 PM

i'am sorry bro but i don't like that running deca for 3 week's it has not started to kick in yet then you change to eq.

and what's with the tappering of the dose ?? your only asking for more side affect's doing this

i think you would be much happyer with this cycle

week 1-13 test e 750mg
week 1-12 EQ 600mg
week 1-4 oxy's 50mg ed

**Pscarb** · 08-07-2005, 02:13 PM

i think his use of Test is ok as all are individual..

but i do agree with what has been said about the use of deca

stocky121 · 08-07-2005, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pscarb

i think his use of Test is ok as all are individual..

what do you mean bro him switching up sust to test e ??(it's not something i would do but it's not bad) or tappering the dose ??

**Pscarb** · 08-07-2005, 02:20 PM

why is switching from a multi ester to and individual one not ok..i have have done this plenty of times with great result with no crash at the end and no side effects.
please explain why switching is a bad idea..

stocky121 · 08-07-2005, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pscarb

why is switching from a multi ester to and individual one not ok..i have have done this plenty of times with great result with no crash at the end and no side effects.
please explain why switching is a bad idea..

no problem bro the reason i think changing from a multi ester to a single ester is not that good is the increase of side's because of the blood level inbalance with switching compound's unless you switch to prop or susp

like i said it's not that bad but it's not something i would do

Bazzamax · 08-07-2005, 02:41 PM

To tell you guys the truth, I was just trying to use up the gear that I have in stock,
I prefer Eq to deca but i find if i run a cycle without any deca in it I start to get pain in my joints. The way I looked at the cycle right from the start to finish I would always have an anabolic working and an androgenic.

The oxy's 1-3 then the deca kicking in 4-6 and the boldenone kicking in 7-9 and the tren in the tnt working 10,11 and 12.
I was starting off with the sust because The short ester test in it would get working right away.
I suppose I could change my sust dose to 750mgs pw therefore I would not be tapering, the reason i have cut the test enanthate down to 500 mgs wks 8 and 9 is because i'm using tnt which has test e in it.

how much longer do you guys think i'd be better running the deca for?

comments always appreciated,
Bazza.

stocky121 · 08-07-2005, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazzamax

To tell you guys the truth, I was just trying to use up the gear that I have in stock,
I prefer Eq to deca but i find if i run a cycle without any deca in it I start to get pain in my joints. The way I looked at the cycle right from the start to finish I would always have an anabolic working and an androgenic.

The oxy's 1-3 then the deca kicking in 4-6 and the boldenone kicking in 7-9 and the tren in the tnt working 10,11 and 12.
I was starting off with the sust because The short ester test in it would get working right away.
I suppose I could change my sust dose to 750mgs pw therefore I would not be tapering, the reason i have cut the test enanthate down to 500 mgs wks 8 and 9 is because i'm using tnt which has test e in it.

how much longer do you guys think i'd be better running the deca for?

comments always appreciated,
Bazza.

if the daca is what you have in stock you can run it at 100mg per week if all you wan't it for is to help your joint's

Bazzamax · 08-07-2005, 02:50 PM

I might just do that stocky and also run the Eq for 8 weeks.(1-8)

stocky121 · 08-07-2005, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazzamax

I might just do that stocky and also run the Eq for 8 weeks.(1-8)

you could run the EQ for 8 week's but IMO it need's to run at least 12 and i think jimmy will be in soon to start debating about this

**Pscarb** · 08-07-2005, 04:07 PM

i am of the same way of thinking as jimmy i do not believe the assumption that their is a magical number of weeks that any substance must be used for....my next cycle i am using it for 10 weeks and this is on the advisement of my coach who is a IFBB Pro..

as for switching from a multi ester to a single ester i cannot see where you are coming from or where you are getting the info from because by week 4 their will be enough test in the system from the longer esters that are in sus not to cause a drop in blood levels when you switch to a single ester like enthanate....
to be honest mate you have made a pretty sweeping statement by saying you WILL get increased sides from switching as this does not happen to me nor as it happened to alot of guys i know who have been doing it this way for a long time.
when you have done this how bad did the sides get after you switched to a single ester from a multi ester test.

stocky121 · 08-07-2005, 04:16 PM

just because you have test built up in your system dose not mean that you won't get a change in blood level's. Because of the prop ester in sust this is why you WILL get a change in blood level's. like i was saying it is not major but it is still something that i would not do

**Pscarb** · 08-07-2005, 04:32 PM

the prop ester is only 30mg per 250mg shot seeing as he is only doing 500mg per week the prop ester will not raise blood levels to any great degree to cause bad sides...

but like i said in my last post when you have done this how bad where your sides because if you have never done it yourself how do you know it happens...??

stocky121 · 08-07-2005, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pscarb

the prop ester is only 30mg per 250mg shot seeing as he is only doing 500mg per week the prop ester will not raise blood levels to any great degree to cause bad sides...

but like i said in my last post when you have done this how bad where your sides because if you have never done it yourself how do you know it happens...??

just because the prop ester is 30 mg dose not mean that your blood level's won't change a substational amount if you do this once you MAY be ok. If you keep doing this for example take it once or twice a week you are not running sus right to take advantage of the prop ester and to keep your blood level's stable.

next i have never run a multi ester test nor i will ever run a multi ester test WHY?

because thay are garbage IMO keeping your blood level's stable is hard
why not run a single ester test ?? if you want run sus because of the prop ester why not just frotload with prop ??

how do i know this happen's because i have done a lot and lot of research on anabolic's i might be a newbie to this site but not to the game just ask nomore1324 why??

because the first cycle i done i listend to a bro in the gym and done a d/boll deca cycle that was horrible my labido was shot to **** i was shut down hard even with proper PCT my labido never recoverd till i wen't on my next cycle and ran test with it. So i made i my mission to do as much research on anabolic's as i could.

08-07-2005, 11:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
Bazzamax Gym Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: near Glasgow Posts: 232	new cycle for next month. Hi All, I'm going to be starting a new cycle in a few weeks now, I want it to be a bulking cycle. My last cycle which consisted of tnt350,test enanth,proviron with viro and bold prop to finish was good..I never had much of an appetite so my diet was not great, I finished up the same weight but a lot leaner and smaller waist. My next cycle is going to be something like this: weeks 1,2 and 3 : 50 mgs Oxy's ed 500mg Sust pw 400 mg Deca pw. weeks 4,5,6 and 7: 750 mgs test enanth pw 500 mgs equipoise pw. weeks 8 and 9: 500 mg Test enanth pw 2ml (700mg) tnt350 pw. weeks 10,11 and 12 :100mgs test prop eod. I have read jimmy's posts about changing compounds throughout and I'm gonna try this.. If anyone notices anything I should change let me know. All the best, Bazza. __________________ This isn't a test run....It's the real thing....Live life to the max.

08-07-2005, 01:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,165	looks ok but why are you only doing the Deca for 3 weeks... i agree with Jimmy on switching compounds but i have found this to be more effective if you just switch the test ester. imo you need a base i have a base of normally Deca or EQ on all of my off season courses... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Admin at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nutrition is your greatest anabolic agent everything else is just the icing on the cake

08-07-2005, 02:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
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08-07-2005, 02:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,165	why is switching from a multi ester to and individual one not ok..i have have done this plenty of times with great result with no crash at the end and no side effects. please explain why switching is a bad idea.. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Admin at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nutrition is your greatest anabolic agent everything else is just the icing on the cake

08-07-2005, 02:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bazzamax Gym Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: near Glasgow Posts: 232	To tell you guys the truth, I was just trying to use up the gear that I have in stock, I prefer Eq to deca but i find if i run a cycle without any deca in it I start to get pain in my joints. The way I looked at the cycle right from the start to finish I would always have an anabolic working and an androgenic. The oxy's 1-3 then the deca kicking in 4-6 and the boldenone kicking in 7-9 and the tren in the tnt working 10,11 and 12. I was starting off with the sust because The short ester test in it would get working right away. I suppose I could change my sust dose to 750mgs pw therefore I would not be tapering, the reason i have cut the test enanthate down to 500 mgs wks 8 and 9 is because i'm using tnt which has test e in it. how much longer do you guys think i'd be better running the deca for? comments always appreciated, Bazza. __________________ This isn't a test run....It's the real thing....Live life to the max.

08-07-2005, 01:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
stocky121 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: england Posts: 83	i'am sorry bro but i don't like that running deca for 3 week's it has not started to kick in yet then you change to eq. and what's with the tappering of the dose ?? your only asking for more side affect's doing this i think you would be much happyer with this cycle week 1-13 test e 750mg week 1-12 EQ 600mg week 1-4 oxy's 50mg ed

08-07-2005, 02:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bazzamax Gym Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: near Glasgow Posts: 232	I might just do that stocky and also run the Eq for 8 weeks.(1-8) __________________ This isn't a test run....It's the real thing....Live life to the max.

08-07-2005, 04:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,165	i am of the same way of thinking as jimmy i do not believe the assumption that their is a magical number of weeks that any substance must be used for....my next cycle i am using it for 10 weeks and this is on the advisement of my coach who is a IFBB Pro.. as for switching from a multi ester to a single ester i cannot see where you are coming from or where you are getting the info from because by week 4 their will be enough test in the system from the longer esters that are in sus not to cause a drop in blood levels when you switch to a single ester like enthanate.... to be honest mate you have made a pretty sweeping statement by saying you WILL get increased sides from switching as this does not happen to me nor as it happened to alot of guys i know who have been doing it this way for a long time. when you have done this how bad did the sides get after you switched to a single ester from a multi ester test. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Admin at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nutrition is your greatest anabolic agent everything else is just the icing on the cake

08-07-2005, 04:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
stocky121 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: england Posts: 83	just because you have test built up in your system dose not mean that you won't get a change in blood level's. Because of the prop ester in sust this is why you WILL get a change in blood level's. like i was saying it is not major but it is still something that i would not do

08-07-2005, 04:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,165	the prop ester is only 30mg per 250mg shot seeing as he is only doing 500mg per week the prop ester will not raise blood levels to any great degree to cause bad sides... but like i said in my last post when you have done this how bad where your sides because if you have never done it yourself how do you know it happens...?? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Admin at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nutrition is your greatest anabolic agent everything else is just the icing on the cake

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