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newboy606 · 14-06-2005, 12:04 PM

3 weeks into first cycle, may seem a silly question but f**k it ill ask it anyway, does it make any difference where i inject? will i see more gains in my delts if i inject there?
starting 2 see some gains,body is starting 2 look harder, have a feeling my "just 1 or 2 cycles" idea might end up like 20 or 30 cycles,already planning second cycle

**Aftershock** · 14-06-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by newboy606

3 weeks into first cycle, may seem a silly question but f**k it ill ask it anyway, does it make any difference where i inject? will i see more gains in my delts if i inject there?
starting 2 see some gains,body is starting 2 look harder, have a feeling my "just 1 or 2 cycles" idea might end up like 20 or 30 cycles,already planning second cycle

Doesn't make any difference where you jab mate.

You might think you are getting some localised growth, but in reality its from the muscle site swelling a little bit, and is temporary :(

try spotinjections.com for some good injection info.

**Great White** · 14-06-2005, 01:50 PM

This topic will go on forever

Its asked a few times a month and always gets good responce.

Personally, i am a dis-believer in spot injections and feel it dosnt matter where you inject, you will grow the same.

A lot of people do believe in spot injections.

The best way to find out is to experiment, or to hit as many sites as possible during your cycle.

You should have at least 4 - 5 sites anyway for proper injetion rotation.

Paul

Biker · 14-06-2005, 02:35 PM

Many people think that if you inject the steroid into a muscle it will bind to that muscle particularly faster acting ester steroids such as prop if it has an ester I say it DOES NOT, I'm now going to try and explain why I believe it doesn't. They may cause some local growth through stretching the muscle but then any oil based steroid with an ester will be as effective as prop etc.

It’s simple, once I explain the whole ester thing. Esterification is a process where a carboxylic acid is attached to the steroid molecule. This makes it more difficult for the blood to pick it up and carry it into circulation, and likewise slows the rate the drug can leave the injection site. As a result, an inactive deposit of steroid can sit at the site of injection, releasing slowly for days or weeks into the blood stream. Once free in the blood the ester is removed quickly by enzymes, and the base steroid is rendered active. Different esters take longer than others at one end we have esters like Propionate with quite a short life and at the other end we have esters like Decanoate with a long life.

The esterified steroids you inject are useless at binding to the local receptors (or to any receptors) until the ester is removed. Once the ester is removed the steroid is active.

The place where 98% of the ester will be removed is in the blood stream. 2% in the muscle cell. The enzymes which remove the esters are found in the blood stream.

So when you site inject a drug like deca, it has to be taken from the injection site, into the blood stream where the ester is removed making it active.

So, when the gear is active, it has left the muscle it was injected into and is in the blood stream, now every muscle has as good chance in binding with the steroid. The steroid will bind with the androgen receptor, making a hormone-receptor complex, then enters the cell nucleus, where it binds to DNA, and you grow!

That of course leaves ester free gear.

If the steroid doesn't have an ester, then a small (and I mean small!) percentage of the steroid can bind directly with the receptor of the injected muscle, before the majority of it is released into the blood stream. This will help to increase the growth of the local muscle.

Types of drugs to use. Winstrol, Test Suspension, injectible Anadrol, Injectable Dbol, and I'm sure some others that I can't think of at the moment.

So the next time an internet expert tells you something like "prop is the best steroid to use for site growth" think twice about it and don't just believe it's true because he's a mod or makes a lot of posts.

the_gre8t_1ne · 14-06-2005, 03:02 PM

and if you did get local growth, you would have loads of guys in the gym with a powerfull and huge Jlo/ronnie colman A$$'s:lift:

Biker · 14-06-2005, 03:17 PM

well hold in mind the glute is a big muscle so any small local growth wouldn't really be noticeable anyhow.

Timmy Smooth · 14-06-2005, 05:02 PM

Good post, Biker.

Tuna_boi · 14-06-2005, 07:18 PM

?Nice post, have to spread the love around apprently, so couldnt give u rep ..

14-06-2005, 12:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
newboy606 Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 46	injection sites 3 weeks into first cycle, may seem a silly question but f**k it ill ask it anyway, does it make any difference where i inject? will i see more gains in my delts if i inject there? starting 2 see some gains,body is starting 2 look harder, have a feeling my "just 1 or 2 cycles" idea might end up like 20 or 30 cycles,already planning second cycle

14-06-2005, 01:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Great White Sexy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 9,249	This topic will go on forever Its asked a few times a month and always gets good responce. Personally, i am a dis-believer in spot injections and feel it dosnt matter where you inject, you will grow the same. A lot of people do believe in spot injections. The best way to find out is to experiment, or to hit as many sites as possible during your cycle. You should have at least 4 - 5 sites anyway for proper injetion rotation. Paul __________________ Welcome to Uk-Muscle.co.uk "I was born perfect, and just like the great white shark, have never had to evolve!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Hardcore Bodybuilding & Powerlifting Community! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Bodybuilding & Sports Video Sharing Community!

14-06-2005, 02:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Biker Part of the UK-M furniture... gathering dust in the corner :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,807	Many people think that if you inject the steroid into a muscle it will bind to that muscle particularly faster acting ester steroids such as prop if it has an ester I say it DOES NOT, I'm now going to try and explain why I believe it doesn't. They may cause some local growth through stretching the muscle but then any oil based steroid with an ester will be as effective as prop etc. It’s simple, once I explain the whole ester thing. Esterification is a process where a carboxylic acid is attached to the steroid molecule. This makes it more difficult for the blood to pick it up and carry it into circulation, and likewise slows the rate the drug can leave the injection site. As a result, an inactive deposit of steroid can sit at the site of injection, releasing slowly for days or weeks into the blood stream. Once free in the blood the ester is removed quickly by enzymes, and the base steroid is rendered active. Different esters take longer than others at one end we have esters like Propionate with quite a short life and at the other end we have esters like Decanoate with a long life. The esterified steroids you inject are useless at binding to the local receptors (or to any receptors) until the ester is removed. Once the ester is removed the steroid is active. The place where 98% of the ester will be removed is in the blood stream. 2% in the muscle cell. The enzymes which remove the esters are found in the blood stream. So when you site inject a drug like deca, it has to be taken from the injection site, into the blood stream where the ester is removed making it active. So, when the gear is active, it has left the muscle it was injected into and is in the blood stream, now every muscle has as good chance in binding with the steroid. The steroid will bind with the androgen receptor, making a hormone-receptor complex, then enters the cell nucleus, where it binds to DNA, and you grow! That of course leaves ester free gear. If the steroid doesn't have an ester, then a small (and I mean small!) percentage of the steroid can bind directly with the receptor of the injected muscle, before the majority of it is released into the blood stream. This will help to increase the growth of the local muscle. Types of drugs to use. Winstrol, Test Suspension, injectible Anadrol, Injectable Dbol, and I'm sure some others that I can't think of at the moment. So the next time an internet expert tells you something like "prop is the best steroid to use for site growth" think twice about it and don't just believe it's true because he's a mod or makes a lot of posts. __________________ -- Biker To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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