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Old 04-11-2009, 12:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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any other opinions on the winstrol peeps???? or the anavar????
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Old 04-11-2009, 12:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Have you considered T-bol?
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:05 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Have you considered T-bol?

no i havnt, i will have to look up that as well, from reading posts and talking to people on here, a lot of people suggested winstrol as you dont seem to hold water with this as you do with dbol, so ive only really researched this and fat burners such as t3 eph and clen,

would you recommend tbol then for cutting and hardening off
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:19 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm surprised at that...wonder how good?

It's used a lot because like loads of other steroids - it works in synergy with other steroid types, the stack becomes more potent than the component parts...a test a 17 aa and a 19 nor ...you know this tainted

Some aromatise some don't, some bind with different strength to the androgen receptor, some bind to SBGH....get the right stack and majic happens.

That doesn't mean some drugs are not sh1t on their own (or limited in their building ability Vs their toxicity and winny is a toxic fella)

I'd bet a dbol only cycle would be better for building or a Var only for shaping up a bit
Well my original gym partner only ran winstrol first two or 3 times and gained well. And another chap we knew only ever used it, and went from a srawny drug runner to a decently built guy.

Now I'm not saying it'll make you a mass monster but the gains were there and both looked alot better off.

But a nice test base course, with tbol start and winstrol finish is always nice.
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:20 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Well i dont like the sound off hardening off, i used tbol as my first aas course and found it to be very good,, great lean gains, i did a thread on it think it was called , my tbol only course , but i would reccomend it mate for what your looking for
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well my original gym partner only ran winstrol first two or 3 times and gained well. And another chap we knew only ever used it, and went from a srawny drug runner to a decently built guy.

Maybe he'd have gained like fuk natty too, we're all different I guess - I only know one guy who ran it - then he ran anavar on it's own too and after all that - he still didn't look like he knew where the gym was honest looked like an average joe
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Im a firm believer in taking test in any course. couple of shots of propionate a week would be of great benefit to you.
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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would you recommend tbol then for cutting and hardening off
See bravo9 above.

You also should run a PCT of clomd (100/50/50) and Nolva (40/20/20).

Tbol I am running at 60/60/80mg for six weeks.
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:31 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Im a firm believer in taking test in any course. couple of shots of propionate a week would be of great benefit to you.
I think everyone would agree, but some people do have issues with injecting.
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Yeh dagman do run pct mate, i think im paying the price now with gyno because i cut my pct short, well tbh i only ran nolva for 3weeks,, stupid i know but you live and learn the hard way i guess,,, how is your course going
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Yeh dagman do run pct mate, i think im paying the price now with gyno because i cut my pct short, well tbh i only ran nolva for 3weeks,, stupid i know but you live and learn the hard way i guess,,, how is your course going
Course is going well - had a few stomach issues when upping the dose to 80mg, but that seemed to ease after about a week (don't think it helps that I sit down most of the day and stuff my face).

Minor back pumps that feel like I have been deadlifting everyday

Started out at 14.4 and now 14.12 - see how I go once I start PCT which is Clomid/Nolva.

In the new year hoping to run a test/dbol cycle - just got to get my head round injecting myself

Hope the Gyno is not to bad mate.
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Course is going well - had a few stomach issues when upping the dose to 80mg, but that seemed to ease after about a week (don't think it helps that I sit down most of the day and stuff my face).

Minor back pumps that feel like I have been deadlifting everyday

Started out at 14.4 and now 14.12 - see how I go once I start PCT which is Clomid/Nolva.

In the new year hoping to run a test/dbol cycle - just got to get my head round injecting myself

Hope the Gyno is not to bad mate.
Thanks mate, im gonna get a thread up and pics soon to see what people think, i keep telling myself iis not gyno and its just my chest holding onto excess water but in real terms i really think its gyno,,

Sounds like your course is going well, i was same when i bumped the dose up to 80mg the shin and back pumps started but strength went thru the roof,, good luck pal

sorry winstrol man for hijacking your thread
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Thanks mate, im gonna get a thread up and pics soon to see what people think, i keep telling myself iis not gyno and its just my chest holding onto excess water but in real terms i really think its gyno,,

Sounds like your course is going well, i was same when i bumped the dose up to 80mg the shin and back pumps started but strength went thru the roof,, good luck pal

sorry winstrol man for hijacking your thread
If you have soreness and puffiness - then more than likely you have Gyno.

I take it you have not been to the docs?
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If you have soreness and puffiness - then more than likely you have Gyno.

I take it you have not been to the docs?
Thats the thing mate no soreness no lump just puffy nips the left one more than the other,, was gonna go docs but i know they dont care much for gyno or the other option they would prescribe me with nolva which ive had and nothing mate,,, so f**k knows
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Thats the thing mate no soreness no lump just puffy nips the left one more than the other,, was gonna go docs but i know they dont care much for gyno or the other option they would prescribe me with nolva which ive had and nothing mate,,, so f**k knows
Maybe best to post a clear pic of your chest area at different angles so people get a clear picture - lots of guys who could help you on here concerning gyno.

Do it as a new thread, sorry as well OP
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