fits

Yeah, the thing is I would like this thread to continue, but its hard without Sam here to ask questions to. Is there any one else about that has had a GOOD few cycles of 14x14 under their belts?

Can we unban Sam just on this thread??? is he promisses not to call any one a C*nt???? lol

Pscarb

Sam is banned for a period of time which will be decided by the MOD team insulting MOD's and other members is not tolerated...

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ONE SMART COOKIE

LOL, you been at the caffiene again buddy

LOL, your funny buddy

Gone but not forgotten, sly old grumpy bollox

A very bold & brave statement,

Not taking anything away from you with regards to the weight you have lost. I would say I would have suggested a much different way of doing things, either au natural or running PCT only cycles to stimulate your bodies own hormonal production a wee bit more, (and yes I have done this myself in the past and it does work) then clear out for sometime. Rather than messing with your own system through the use of steroids and their *supressing/shutdown* side effects, which I think is not what your body needs given it hasn`t had any test for 10 years like you say, sort of going backwards in effect..

OK.....

So none of us have pictures in our avatars..

How about over 40 videos on youtube? having fun, putting my face up there to show I practise what I preach and all that type of lingo....

Or

Some old competition pictures?

13 years ago to be exact....

Bit dated and many have seen the same ones before so should be bored sh!tless by now of looking at my ugly mug

And I am sure there are many on here much bigger and in far better condition than I ever achieved or could achieve.

Then again I did make many a screw up back then so I would say didn`t reach my true potential..IMHO...

But I didn`t REALLY know what I was doing back then compared to these days..

I appologise guys for putting these up again...

Not Mr Olympia standard I know.

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Or maybe one from recently in a more contemplating mood?

(please note the training equipement in the background, a small sign of I practise what I preach)

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As you can see I have nothing to hide, have never claimed myself to be anything that I am not and I sure as hell not a keyboard or an armchair warrior.

All we wanted was for you not to make the same mistakes we made and believe me I made some humdingers and your approach is littered with mistakes that we can see having in a sense been there ourselves, felt the frustrations and the impatientness but in different ways to you.

So for you to come onto somebody elses thread given the lack of experiance you have in all this and go on like you do, sort of smacks of *knowitall* syndrome, when it fact it may just be *over enthusiasm*

Either way I think you need to step back a little, carefully read what this entire thread is all about, the little snippetts of wisdom in here, but most importantly see that we already made changes to the 14x14 by altering the amount of days on & days off yada yada yada to counter any problems we foresaw a long time back. So we get a little tired of page after page of continually having to back up what is already in here.

We did all the experiment(s) and made the adjustments as required, not our fault others cannot see or read things to its fullest extent.

And mine & Sam69`s offers still stand of showing you in person alternative ways to approach what you want to achieve..

Sorry guys been rambling again aint I?

I think I should get a new job as a novelist

fits

Been at the coffee again???

Cookie, to continue the theme here, have you or any one you know tried the 'pulsing' method?

Pscarb

good pics Cookie...

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cwoody123

yea good pics!...but i was not referring to you mate...i was referring to Fits and Lux. Any ways i am going to take Pscarbs advice and bow out...as i really can't be bothered running round in circles with this to be honest.