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[QUOTE=Pscarb;449436]no mate this is a forum for debate so everyone has the right to comment on any thread....

I never said it was being stated that no one said it did not cause shutdown i merly commented on the fact it did, just in case any newbie read the thread and thought it did not...calm down please mate i know sam is your buddy and you back this type of cycle but every one is entitled to comment....[/QUOTE]

I think Cookie was refering to woody who regularly, in HIS journal tells people to "not say anything if you don't have anything possitive to say" but then comes on to S69's Journal and starts being very negative about something sam put ALLOT of time and effort into for us all to learn from.

I agree it would be good if some one would get bloods done, but not all doctors will do it and it can be expensive to do privately.

until more people come forward and try i guess it will stay a minority way of doing things in this world where more is best! but who knows eh, maybe more people will try it, and maybe they will share their results, good OR bad!

cwoody123

Mate hackski used that term loosely! and you know it...he meant don't post ****e or attacks on my post but instead to post constructive critiscm like i have on this thread.

Look back at my posts...they all detail the need for blood test results...not..."O where do you live so i can beat your head in" type of messages!

Lets round this up by saying i do not advocate this type of cycle until i see more evidence that it is not optimal in the long term...people are free to choose what they want to do, if they want to follow this type of cycle then that's fine i just feel i have every right to question it, the debate is there for them all to see so they can make there OWN minds up based on the anecdotal & Physical evidence!

No i am not medically trained i just know a hell of a lot about the endocrine system from personal experience and learning. My doctor admitted to me that he knew **** all about it and my some of things my endo comes out with would make you wonder how the hell she managed to get the job...what i am saying is just because some one has medical training does not mean they instantly know what they are talking about!

Cookie i don't shroud anything...i am far to dumb to be that manipulative lol

Lost Soul

Woody - question with no malice - How do you think peoples responses would change to your posts if you had a picture of a huge/cut/shreaded guy in your avatar?

cwoody123

Give me a year or 2 LOL!

Good point thou!...Most people Judge a book by it's cover. If i was to liken myself to a book i would have the cover of "Little red riding hood" but the content of "Bravo 2 zero"!

God i talk some cr@p!

The point with my pictures is i am honest...i dont pretend to be some muscle bound freak of nature...i just am a normal bloke trying to get back to full health after a long illness...people can take that how they please...but only a real idiot will think "God he is big, he must know his ****!"

Lost Soul

Unfortunately its doesnt do you any favours, rightly or wrongly its the first thing people look at.

prime example here

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/general-c...pros-cons.html

I mean WTF? what is your plan? The guy has been given many plans before and not listened

cwoody123

To be honest if people decide to judge me by my Avater then they aren't worth the effort in the first place!...I have worked fooking hard and i am proud of that there little picture so go forth my wimsical friends and judge...i could not give a flying fook!

At least i am not 18st anymore with man breasts and a big old hanging gut and a brain tumour! and that is all that matters to me...everything else is a bonus


Now lets not talk any more about this and get the post back on topic

wogihao

Dammit going to have to read this from the begining..

romper stomper

bill and ben the flowerpot men

Little red riding hood"
Well this is a bodybuilding site and if you post pics they are going to be judged, you do seem to give alot of advice, and in my book the proof is in the pudding and in your case the pudding is still uncooked !!! and in the mixing bowl.

No offence meant but i would not take advice about steroids from a guy with a pic like yours.


and its now on page 50 , have a good read.

cwoody123

Well in my case mate...the proof is not in the pudding because i have not had a cooker for the last 10 years to make the ****ing thing...2 years with an oven and i am rising!

If you don't like the simple fact that i know what i am talking about then that's your own issue...I don't pretend to know everything like some so called experts on this but i try and test things with regular blood test results which i feel is more appealing to a newbie than the " Look at the size of my guns' Character.

As i said people who judge a book by its cover make presumptions...and as Andy McNab once said "Presumptions are the mother of all **** ups"

romper stomper

you ar really into McNab, he gats a good slating from his ex army buddies, but thats another topic.

I fully agree with blood tests, but if you know what you are talkintg about why are the results of your endevours not that evident ?? thats my own personal opinion ??

winger

Romper stomper, I totally agree with you 100%, had I not known cwoody123's background. He had a prolactin secreting tumor for over 10 years.

Do I agree with the short, low dose cycles, yes. Can a low dose cycle shut you down? It depends on the person. I know two guys personally that have done 14 days on, 14 days off and both of them got shut down and are on testosterone gel, prescribed by a doctor.
Can this protocol work? Yes it could, but it needs tweaking after the first 14 day cycle.
ChefX did this style with blood work and Cookie actually touched on it.
If memory serves (and it doesn't ) 14 days on 14 days off, 14 days on 21 days off.
Once again I don't do gear, but that is just me and in no way do I fault anyone for doing it!

romper stomper

I suppose i am going to get the Mcnab quoate again

Presumptions are the mother of all **** ups"


well so was the brave two zero mission .

Captain Hero

the chef X short cycle is a little different winger

25 days on 17 off and then 25 days on 24 days off

I know Chef will have had the bloods done and has infact done the cycles himself.

cwoody123

lol lads...as i said lets not keep talking about my progress...but hey thanks for giving me more ammo to push me to succeed in my pursuit of personal perfection!

I will leave you with another quote "Why are dads willies brown?" (Russel Brand 2007)


Hare Krishna!

Pscarb

this i did not know so Cookie i do apologise as i did not know cwoody had done this on his thread....

i am lucky that my Dr does my bloods but if she did not i would pay to get them done, why wouldn,t you after all you have paid for the steroids you are pumping into your body why not pay for the bloods?? to me that is reckless.

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