cwoody123

Mate you really don't have to get so hot headed! All i am saying is i would like to see blood work on this as i have my doubts...surely there is someone one willing to to get before and after bloods done just to confirm your theories, i don't think it sensible to recommend this until you know for sure that people are not being shutdown.

You know your nuts can remain normal looking having low testosterone and you really don't need much testosterone to maintain sexual function...my worry is people could end up partially shutdown without even knowing it.

Mate i am not going to give you my address as i don't think your intent on a freindly chat and a pint are you!

Thanks for the offer to come over also...In case i come over i should let you know i am a 9 in shoe size...just gives you a heads up so you can get the concrete boots made up! lol

Seriously you are taking all this far to personally!

hackskii

For what it is worth, I do have a friend (Tim) who did 2 weeks on 2 weeks off low dose and he went to the doctor to do blood work and he had the testosterone of a girl.
He is a member of this board and he can attest to this if you wish.

He is a bit older so this could compromise recovery to some degree.
Right now his doctor put him on Androgel.

Anyone tells you that 2 weeks on 2 off will not suppress is totally mistaken, my friend has the blood work to prove it.

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dogs32

I cant believe what I just read!!!..I thought everything was fine with all that I read through his experiments
I have the real thing now NOVALDEX.....Also after cycle i will useTrib..and creative....I have started the cycle....
All seems to be going well...apart from the odd pains around my knees...
I really thought what Sam did was good....I will use a strong dose of trib after cycle and Nova xt version....
I am very new to this as I have only been training for 4 months...

007

your an idiot ,you have been lifting for 4 months and you have started a cycle.......your the kind of person who gives aas a bad name.

dogs32

I cant see why Im an idiot..thats your opion...I am already a very fit person
And have done weights before throughout my life....And another thing I have spent months of researching all....I haven't just jumped in the deep end....
I dont intend to take large doses at all....Infact my experiment is to see if a very..VERY small dose can keep me longer at the gym before failure...
Encouragement and advice mate go along way.....reason why I should Stop

007

what is your planned cycle and pct?also what are your stats.

starting your own thread would be good.

Lost Soul

Many will agree with 007

4 months of training

some help below if you click the link about new steroid users

dogs32

I realy didnt wont all the attention to be honest to start my own thread..because I know some of you lot out there are massive compared to me...Im 42yrs
5'8
165 pounds
15 inch biceps
chest 40
If that helps....
Im on Milk Thistle everyday/flaxseed/vitaminc/ect....

PCT...
Trib/creatine...Nolvadex.and nolvadex Xt......
a very small dose of Dbol. every 14 daysVERY.its an experiment to see if I can stay longer on weights..........I Do Not Intend to go higher on Roids
Now your probably going to laugh at my set up.....but I can tell I certainly have got stronger....but its probably all in the mind of being on them.
Just wont to see if I can comfortably do this without any major probs
thx.Lost Soul.I just dont wont alot of fuss like Sam got.....I use this forum for all advice...
any funny stuff of these dbol.Im off it...

let me just add why I started....because I have been working really hard 3 days a week in the gym with my brother..who is 22..
He is exploding.no steroids!!!...me well VERY slowy growing..thats the reason....doesnt matter how hard I push...I thought at this rate i will be 60 before I have a decent shape...Maybe thats a bad reason..but a honest one

007

put your cycle down like this.

weeks 1-? ?mgs dbol every day

pct weeks 1-4 ? mgs nolva ed.

and why the hell you running nolvadex xt (dont even know what this is )and nolva

dogs32

thx....Novedex xt....suppose to be an anti estrogene..and test booster
After reading many threads on here I decided to get the nolva ed...
I was just going to do 14 days Dbol..14 off.....and only use nova ed if I needed..but with such a small dose Im hoping I wont need.......so use NOVEDEX XT instead..is this a bad idea...should I run Nolva any way...
Appreciate advice on that....
I am eating 4,000 cals a day..good food....ect...tons of protein as well....gaining a few pounds a week at present..no bloating...
Getting big on the shoulders.....

Lost Soul

14 days? waste of time
novadex is not suitable as PCT either

dogs32

thx....just nova ed then....can I just ask is it best if I do 21 days on 14 days off then

dogs32

getting confused with...novedex and nova.....so your saying dont use nova..the advice is really valuable...

Lost Soul

no the whole cycle is sh1te

14 days of dbol is not worth it
14 days of nova is not suitable

do a real cycle or dont bother

a real cycle is 6-8 weeks of dbol, nolvadex and clomid PCT

dogs32

Excellent...I take your advice..Im glad I posted on here..was just an observer
will do....a 6 weeks of Dbol......and I take it follow the course of nolvadex and clomid...Ive seen on here that cycle somewhere.....how you gradually change bring it down on the cycle....thanks guys for your help...
Like I say I dont intend to increase high dosage of dbol