fits

I think sam only used something one his first few days as he had soem paranoia about gyno but nothing came of it and he didnt use it again at all.

Jimmy

sorry...thats about the only steroid i have never used

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fits

lol ok mate now worries :-)

velovo

Looking back at this thread, I was interested to hear about the tintinitis problem and Hackski post regarding a lack of B12. I would like to remind some of you guys about the effect of Dina on the bodys levels of B12 as this may have been a likely cause looking at the post from Hackski. Dina has an effect on the natural B12 levels. I do not know if any of you guys remember the old Trinergic form from P&B laboratories in Bombay (they also did Pronabol 5 which was one of the only Dina tabs at the time)? These were red capsules which contained B12 to combat the effects that the dina had on the bodies natural levels. Anyone thinking of taking Dina may wish to think about some kind of B12 supplementation as well.

toon

bump for samurai...........

ONE SMART COOKIE

The whole idea behind the 14x14 is to try and avoid shutdown, some people I`ve had use it have used trib and zinc on the 14 day off period , some for 14 days others for just 10 days.....

toon

and do you think that he will not be shut down like? 14 days or not its still enough to shut you down imo

ONE SMART COOKIE

Shutdown will always happen to some degree in everybody...It has to as thats the bodies way of *balancing* everything out..

But we kept Sam69`s dose as low as possible to keep this to a minimum..He has even gone a slow as 5-10mg aday and still seen results.

Add to that we had him take his tablets early morning to coinside with natural high test levels so that body wouldn`t notice as much that their was an outside addition to natural production..

winger

Guys take gear in the morning when levels are highest. I think it is called bridging. Some swear by it.

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toon

bridging is diff kettle of fish. Im saying, do you find you recover sufficient in 14 days to hit another cycle? Imo your never truelly recovering and hitting cycles straight away. I know dbol has short half life but do you think yr recovered enough after being shut down?

samurai69

YEP

toon

What you basing that on then? What signs?

Also still interested in what pct you run if any between. My apologies if I missed it in the thread.

samurai69

yep.........


first 2 week cycle felt a little bit like nip was itchy, probably paranoia, took nolvadex through the first 10 days of the 14 day off cycle

adter that took nothing between ccyles

i have done at least 15 of these2 on 2 off cycles with a few larger breaks of 2+ months as outlined through the thread

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toon

I still think your underestimating the shutdown of your body. I bet your not fully recovered by the time 14 days has expired. However, its a great thread.

fits

It seems S69 had no bad sides and made good gains so shut down or not, it doesn't really matter.

What do people think about a low dose Tbol 14x14 then? shall we have a poll? i was goign to start one but most people on here wouldn't even open the thread i dont think lol