samurai69

Going to put this link to another thread in as its talking about 14 x 14

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...ol-no-pct.html

samurai69

end of my 2 weeks on and i am now clearly at 95kg, maybe a bit over so i have mad a slight gain over this 2 week cycle

when i resume in 2 weeks time i am going to clean up the diet again and see what additional gains can be made with a clean diet added

Lux

Had to stop my 14x14 experiment. There has been all sorts of bad reviews on the tabs i had and they made me feel so crap i had to stop taking them. The tabs were the 5mg ramopharmin dbols, i read that they are actually methyltestosterone and not what it says on the box:rage:

The first week i was taking them i suffered nosebleeds and nasty horrible lethargy and deep depression. Not sure if its because of these or being sat in the van instead of working, but i seem to have got more spots on my back. I perservered for the first 14 days and would review during the next 14 on. I got 10 days into this and decided to stop. The lethargy and depression was horrible, so for my sake and others around me i binned 'em and started the trib and zinc. So in 5 and a bit weeks i gained 11-12lbs, not all muscle so we'll see how i look in about 6 weeks. Thought i was getting too big a belly and started to slighty reduce the bulking macros this past week as i do Girondas 8x8. But just saw that a side of the methyltestosterone is bloating, so maybe thats why i thought my gut was bigger? Will have to see over the next few weeks.

Once summer has gone, i'll source myself some proper dbols and go for the 14x14 again.

Beginner

Dianabol

I have started taking dianabol for the first time. It is the first time I am taking steroids.

I am taking 20mg a day and I started 4 days ago. I have started noticing a burning sensation around my nipples and I am concerned that gyno symptons might star.

Do you know what are the first symptons of gyno and it is possible that symptons start after just 4 days?

Thanks a lot for your valuable opinion.

samurai69

an update for here, incase it gets lost from another post



after they layoff period that i had after christmas i posted that i was going to try the dose at 10mg.



I mentioned to OSC that what i planned to do was try a dose with no changes to diet or training at all and then on the following 14 day cycle try it with a proper diet and then on the 3rd 14 day cycle possibly change the training a bit too



well i actually started at 5mg per day for my 14 days on...........I gained about 2lbs.......no (noticeable) sides at all. This weight i kept. I have to say my diet isnt that bad at its very worst.



Because i increased my weight on only 5mg, i decided to stay on 5mg for the next 14 days...........over this time i didnt really gain any weight (i didnt lose any either) but the muscle looked better, more shape, better look and a slight drop in BF (i didnt check - but abs were more defined)......the only change to diet was an increase in protein (more chicken and tuna - not supplement) and a decrease in sugars.



and for testing purposes (to see what would happen i stayed on for a third 14 day cycle, which i have just finished - muscle looks better and weight is up by about 1lb (just over on second day of weighing)........I cant comment further on this 14 day cycle as its just finished.



But i do think you could definately start at a much lower amount and increase when the gains have stopped .



It also shows that after a break (mine was 3 months) it is possibkle to resuma at the lower dose and still gain



I also havent looked for massive gains, ultra quickly - but over the near year i have been cycling like this i have gained consistently up from 88.5kg to above 95kg...........i also think this would have been higher if i hadnt had a near 2 month ilness with a month of that out of the gym completely.

Littleluke

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fits

great info S69!!!!

good to see how other people are getting on too. My life sees to change e.g going out, diet, training (at the moment) so i think it will be hard for me to give accurate results but i will try.

Are you staying on 5mg for your next cycle? have weights gone up or are u not trying to increase the weights u lift right now?

samurai69

Cheers mate


Yep, its interesting to see



It shouldnt be too bad


I am probably going to do 10mg - its coming up to my summer hols and it would be nice to add a bit more weight slightly quicker - having said that i am up by another 1lb or so this cycle so may stay at 5mg


On the workout i am doin at the moment i increase weight every workout for 2 weeks the basically de-load as i change exercises, but when i have gone back to a particular exercise the weight has gone up - So basically YES weights are going up :smoke:

fits

good to hear mate! ill be ordering mine friday hopefully :-) still worried that it will speed up the balding process though so i might not take them LOL

LondonGeezer

You should have posted this in a new thread and you would have got some answers.. what have you got for PCT? any nolva or clomid? if you haven't got anything already i suggest go out and get yourself some nolvadex.

60mg nolva day 1
30mg untill you nipples feel normal again
20mg for 2-3days more to be safe.


read some threads about gyno and dbol get some information about it but follow that and you should be ok, start yourself a new thread see what others have to say.

samurai69

Its been exactly 1 year since i started this cycling, i have just weighed my self and i am 96kg thats a gain over the year of 7.5 kg or 16.5 lbs (over a stone).........

It would have been more i am sure as the weight was close to this at christmas, but through ilness i dropped a fair bit

But i am happy with the results........I think it has proved the doubters wrong

You can gain consistantly on a low dose cycle of d-bol

I am at the moment cycling 5mg per day for my 14 on 14 of cycles, the gains are slightly slower, but there is definately an improvement of the quality of the muscle gaines (ie NO or LITTLE water gained). again no NOTICEABLE sides (i am NOT saying NONE.....but the sides if any are NOT NOTICEABLE).

I am going to continue on this cycle again for a couple more......finishing around the middle of July

I still have a load of d-bol left, so after a couple of months break i will probably resume this cycle until i run out

then will start a new journal on my next PLANNED CYCLE

if anyone has questions about this i am only too pleased to answer them here

but i will not be writing it as a journal after this except for a final update when i have completd the tabs i still have

thanks for the interest so far

incidentaly i am 43 in 10 days time

ONE SMART COOKIE

Mate that is awesome to see what you`ve done this past year and I hope others will gain something too from what you`ve done and shown....

Thanks ever so much for being a willing guinee pig in this experiment and having faith in what I said would work all along:lift: and will continue to say works....

Its proved em wrong but wether they`ll actually listen and adjust their own cycles, thats an all together different scenario, bit like :deadhorse

fits

congratulations my friend, and thank you for keeping a detailed journal! the information has been outstanding and i, and i think i talk on behalf of alot of people, when i say i apreciate the time and effort you put in writing this journal.

i hope others (including myself if i can convince myself that 5 to 15 mg of dbol per day wont speed up the enevitable, forthcomming slap head i'm going to get) will try this kind of cycle too. (make sense? its very early for me)

all the best pal.

tanktop

excellent read this journal, very well documented

Androjector

20mg of Dianabol daily is sufficient in instigating reasonable gains. Depending on the validity & quality of your source, 30mg should be a maximum dose.
Dianabol only has a half life once in the system, so periodic ingestion throughout the day is vital in achieving optimum results. 5mg every 2-3 hours should suffice. Naturally that would rise to 10mg every 2-3 hours if 30mg was your desired daily intake.