D (bol) Day 6th June - Page 3 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Jock · 05-06-2005, 11:01 PM

Got a Prop/Tren/Var/T3 cycle lined up mate, so gonna rip it up!

samurai69 · 06-06-2005, 02:35 PM

Well started this morning all 3 tabs at once, will try this way for first 2 weeks.

Trained as normal, though tried to increase PB on all lifts, so that I have something to compare against.

I will Do similar this week on one main exercise per body part (Bent row - back, Bench or Incline bench - chest, difficult doing a leg exercise as squats suck because of knee, decline close grip Bench press - triceps, Bar Bell Curl - Biceps, Deadlifts - Because i want to get over a sticking point).

So for Shoulders

Smith Machine Press was 100kg for 8 reps (did 125kg for 3 half reps)
Hang Clean and Press was 50kg for 5 good reps (did 2 at 65 kg)
Shrugs behind back 200kg for 8 good reps (did 260kg for 1 and half reps).

It would be nice to see the weights creep over these points

samurai69 · 07-06-2005, 12:23 PM

Day 2 exercises for back

Cable row 8 reps at 130kg
v bar pulldown 6 reps at 125kg
Barbell rows 3 reps at 115kg

managed 3 reps of 50kg alternating dumbell rows (this should be improved on

Drinking loads of water, doesnt help that its 35 degrees out side.

samurai69 · 07-06-2005, 07:45 PM

Went back to the gym this evening to help with my wifes training, whilst i was ther finished my back workout (lower back this evening) and there was a definate feel of more aggression (probably psychological) but i managed heaviest weight on pull throughs and felt better on good mornings and incline crunchies

gazmatrix · 08-06-2005, 11:16 AM

Looking good mate, nice weights your putting up there... I'm also thinking about starting a D-bol only cycle for my first cycle in a few weeks so it will be interesting to see how you get on with the D-bol...

the_gre8t_1ne · 08-06-2005, 11:32 AM

DUDE! Your lifting up some serious weight! I wish I could say the same! Im only doing about 100kg freewight for shrugs and i thaught i was da man! :lift: LOL!

samurai69 · 08-06-2005, 11:35 AM

Day 3, Chest

bench 130kg for 5
incline dumbell press 50kg for 6

felt a pump in chest, no more than usual, there was a bit more determination (psychological i am sure)

Had tinitis yesterday for a short while and again last night (paranoia is setting in), but think its just hay fever really

Captain Hero · 08-06-2005, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samurai69

Day 3, Chest

bench 130kg for 5
incline dumbell press 50kg for 6

felt a pump in chest, no more than usual, there was a bit more determination (psychological i am sure)

Had tinitis yesterday for a short while and again last night (paranoia is setting in), but think its just hay fever really

Good stuff man! Keep it up!

samurai69 · 09-06-2005, 01:05 PM

Day 4 had to do arms aswell as legs today as gym is shut tomorrow for bank holiday
Nothing spectacular with legs.
Tricep cable pressdown weight increased by 5 kg since last week now 55kg for 5 reps, T extensions 50kg. Bicep Dumbell Hammer curl seated 30 kg for 6 reps.
Felt a bit lethargic going to the gym as its hot out, but in the gym, once i got started there was a bit more aggression, still not sure if its psychological.

Next training session is saturday, deadlifts and i have had a sticking point so hope to push beyond that.
Then will see how things are going next week

**Aftershock** · 09-06-2005, 01:11 PM

I think it is probably a placebo effect this early in, but quite fankly who cares what it is

keep it up!

**hackskii** · 09-06-2005, 01:36 PM

When I am on gear, I never ever skip a workout.
That is motivation too.

samurai69 · 12-06-2005, 09:06 AM

6 days on, I seem to get tinituis for a while after taking my 15mg all together in the mornings. It passes after a while, is this lickely to be a side effect, or something completely un attached.

Managed to beat my personal best on the deadlift yesterday by 2.5 kg, so just from a determination point of view in the gym, things are working.

Well 7 more days and hopefully some marked results to come.

I was reading about the testosterone boosting effects of nolvadex and was thinking maybe to take 1/2 or 1 tab a day during my 14 days off, any thoughts YES / NO ???

Quote:

Nolvadex also seems preferred from long-term use, for those who find anti-estrogens effective enough at raising testosterone levels to warrant using as anabolics. Here Nolvadex would seem to provide a better and more stable increase in testosterone levels, and likely will offer a similar or greater effect than Clomid for considerably less money.

**hackskii** · 12-06-2005, 04:15 PM

What Causes Tinnitus? Most tinnitus comes from damage to the inner ear, specfically the cochlea (the snail like thing on the right). Tinnitus can also arise from damage to the nerve between the ear and brain (8th nerve, labelled 6, auditory nerve), much more rarely from injury to the brainstem (Lanska et al, 1987), and extremely rarely, to the brain itself. There are specific causes. Ear wax can rarely cause tinnitus. Other causes include middle ear infection or fluid, Meniere's disease, microvascular compression syndrome, and tumors of the 8th nerve. Patients with Meniere's disease often describe a low pitched tinnitus resembling a hiss or a roar. Pulsatile tinnitus (tinnitus that beats with your pulse) can be caused by aneurysms, increased pressure in the head (hydrocephalus), and hardening of the arteries. Anything that increases blood flow or turbulence such as hyperthyroidism, low blood viscosity (e.g. anemia), or tortuous blood vessels may cause pulstitle tinnitus. Vitamin B12 deficiency is common in tinnitus patients.

Loud noise is the leading cause of damage to the inner ear. Most patients with noise trauma describe a whistling tinnitus (Nicholas-Puel et al,. 2002) Advancing age may also be accompanied by inner ear damage and tinnitus. Many medications also can cause tinnitus (see list below). Generally this is thought to arise from their effect on the cochlea (inner ear).

Drugs that commonly cause or increase tinnitus

NSAIDS (motrin, naproxen, relafen, etc)
aspirin and other salicylates
Lasix and other "loop" diuretics
"mycin" antibiotics
quinine and related drugs
Chemotherapy such as cis-platin
Rarely, some of the SSRI antidepressants

As far as the testosterone boosting effects of nolva on your two weeks off.
I have read that several times before and I actually believe it to some extent.
It might make your cholesterol profile look a bit better too.
Now, I have not tried it for the above so bump for someone who has.
I cant remember who but someone said they tried it but cant remember the members name.

samurai69 · 12-06-2005, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

Other causes include middle ear infection or fluid, Meniere's disease,
.

Had this a few weeks ago, so maybe a reccurance

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

As far as the testosterone boosting effects of nolva on your two weeks off.
I have read that several times before and I actually believe it to some extent.
It might make your cholesterol profile look a bit better too.
Now, I have not tried it for the above so bump for someone who has.
I cant remember who but someone said they tried it but cant remember the members name.

Anyone ??, what should i take 1 or 1/2 tab ED ????

**hackskii** · 12-06-2005, 07:22 PM

Clomid, Nolvadex and Testosterone Stimulation
by William Llewellyn
Taken from here: http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/showthrea...light=nolvadex

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

Nolvadex also seems preferred from long-term use, for those who find anti-estrogens effective enough at raising testosterone levels to warrant using as anabolics. Here Nolvadex would seem to provide a better and more stable increase in testosterone levels, and likely will offer a similar or greater effect than Clomid for considerably less money. The potential rise in SHBG levels with Clomid, supported by other research (3), is also cause for concern, as this might work to allow for comparably less free active testosterone compared to Nolvadex as well. Ultimately both drugs are effective anti-estrogens for the prevention of gyno and elevation of endogenous testosterone, however the above research provides enough evidence for me to choose Nolvadex every time.

Here is another read, long but very informative: http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/showthrea...048#post105048

09-06-2005, 01:36 PM	#41 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 31,227	When I am on gear, I never ever skip a workout. That is motivation too. __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

12-06-2005, 04:15 PM	#43 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 31,227	What Causes Tinnitus? Most tinnitus comes from damage to the inner ear, specfically the cochlea (the snail like thing on the right). Tinnitus can also arise from damage to the nerve between the ear and brain (8th nerve, labelled 6, auditory nerve), much more rarely from injury to the brainstem (Lanska et al, 1987), and extremely rarely, to the brain itself. There are specific causes. Ear wax can rarely cause tinnitus. Other causes include middle ear infection or fluid, Meniere's disease, microvascular compression syndrome, and tumors of the 8th nerve. Patients with Meniere's disease often describe a low pitched tinnitus resembling a hiss or a roar. Pulsatile tinnitus (tinnitus that beats with your pulse) can be caused by aneurysms, increased pressure in the head (hydrocephalus), and hardening of the arteries. Anything that increases blood flow or turbulence such as hyperthyroidism, low blood viscosity (e.g. anemia), or tortuous blood vessels may cause pulstitle tinnitus. Vitamin B12 deficiency is common in tinnitus patients. Loud noise is the leading cause of damage to the inner ear. Most patients with noise trauma describe a whistling tinnitus (Nicholas-Puel et al,. 2002) Advancing age may also be accompanied by inner ear damage and tinnitus. Many medications also can cause tinnitus (see list below). Generally this is thought to arise from their effect on the cochlea (inner ear). Drugs that commonly cause or increase tinnitus NSAIDS (motrin, naproxen, relafen, etc) aspirin and other salicylates Lasix and other "loop" diuretics "mycin" antibiotics quinine and related drugs Chemotherapy such as cis-platin Rarely, some of the SSRI antidepressants As far as the testosterone boosting effects of nolva on your two weeks off. I have read that several times before and I actually believe it to some extent. It might make your cholesterol profile look a bit better too. Now, I have not tried it for the above so bump for someone who has. I cant remember who but someone said they tried it but cant remember the members name. __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

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05-06-2005, 11:01 PM	#31 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,124	Got a Prop/Tren/Var/T3 cycle lined up mate, so gonna rip it up!

06-06-2005, 02:35 PM	#32 (permalink)
samurai69 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mid Portugal - by the sea Posts: 3,075	Well started this morning all 3 tabs at once, will try this way for first 2 weeks. Trained as normal, though tried to increase PB on all lifts, so that I have something to compare against. I will Do similar this week on one main exercise per body part (Bent row - back, Bench or Incline bench - chest, difficult doing a leg exercise as squats suck because of knee, decline close grip Bench press - triceps, Bar Bell Curl - Biceps, Deadlifts - Because i want to get over a sticking point). So for Shoulders Smith Machine Press was 100kg for 8 reps (did 125kg for 3 half reps) Hang Clean and Press was 50kg for 5 good reps (did 2 at 65 kg) Shrugs behind back 200kg for 8 good reps (did 260kg for 1 and half reps). It would be nice to see the weights creep over these points

07-06-2005, 12:23 PM	#33 (permalink)
samurai69 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mid Portugal - by the sea Posts: 3,075	Day 2 exercises for back Cable row 8 reps at 130kg v bar pulldown 6 reps at 125kg Barbell rows 3 reps at 115kg managed 3 reps of 50kg alternating dumbell rows (this should be improved on Drinking loads of water, doesnt help that its 35 degrees out side.

07-06-2005, 07:45 PM	#34 (permalink)
samurai69 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mid Portugal - by the sea Posts: 3,075	Went back to the gym this evening to help with my wifes training, whilst i was ther finished my back workout (lower back this evening) and there was a definate feel of more aggression (probably psychological) but i managed heaviest weight on pull throughs and felt better on good mornings and incline crunchies

08-06-2005, 11:16 AM	#35 (permalink)
gazmatrix Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 83	Looking good mate, nice weights your putting up there... I'm also thinking about starting a D-bol only cycle for my first cycle in a few weeks so it will be interesting to see how you get on with the D-bol...

08-06-2005, 11:32 AM	#36 (permalink)
the_gre8t_1ne Your Friendly neighbourhood pusha! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Ghetto (West, London) Posts: 4,230	DUDE! Your lifting up some serious weight! I wish I could say the same! Im only doing about 100kg freewight for shrugs and i thaught i was da man! :lift: LOL!

08-06-2005, 11:35 AM	#37 (permalink)
samurai69 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mid Portugal - by the sea Posts: 3,075	Day 3, Chest bench 130kg for 5 incline dumbell press 50kg for 6 felt a pump in chest, no more than usual, there was a bit more determination (psychological i am sure) Had tinitis yesterday for a short while and again last night (paranoia is setting in), but think its just hay fever really

09-06-2005, 01:05 PM	#39 (permalink)
samurai69 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mid Portugal - by the sea Posts: 3,075	Day 4 had to do arms aswell as legs today as gym is shut tomorrow for bank holiday Nothing spectacular with legs. Tricep cable pressdown weight increased by 5 kg since last week now 55kg for 5 reps, T extensions 50kg. Bicep Dumbell Hammer curl seated 30 kg for 6 reps. Felt a bit lethargic going to the gym as its hot out, but in the gym, once i got started there was a bit more aggression, still not sure if its psychological. Next training session is saturday, deadlifts and i have had a sticking point so hope to push beyond that. Then will see how things are going next week

09-06-2005, 01:11 PM	#40 (permalink)
Aftershock UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,315	I think it is probably a placebo effect this early in, but quite fankly who cares what it is keep it up!