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Old 28-11-2005, 01:39 AM   #421 (permalink)
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I would just continue to run the 14x14 even with the new program your going to be doing..it`ll be interesting to see how the system will work with a cutting type regime(I already know the answer but will be nice to see the results in print on the net...lol)and how it will effect things like cardio and runnibng etc.....



Dosage wise I would stick with the 15mg one you are on...no need to go any higher imho....I would get freaky strong on 12-15mg anavar a day..we will just have to alter your supps and diet to suit the anavar compared to other compounds..

Why alter a winning dosage...plus there are some stuff that can be done to improve absorbtion which have been dicussed before to get the max out of every bit you take....
What kind of results would you expect from winny?
I was going to try the D bol but didnt get it in time before i came back to india, i can buy winny over the counter though.........woudl it be worth a go......
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What kind of results would you expect from winny?
I was going to try the D bol but didnt get it in time before i came back to india, i can buy winny over the counter though.........woudl it be worth a go......
Ask Hackskii about winny. :rolleye11
After 17 days his tes levels were in the toilet. ;) But then again that is Hackskii............lol.
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I want to hop on this one as well! :tongue10:
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I was going to try the D bol but didnt get it in time before i came back to india, i can buy winny over the counter though.........woudl it be worth a go......
Results wise...good...a lot less likely to put any water on...and defo worth a try...winny was the first drug I tried with this system and it worked ok for me...

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After 17 days his tes levels were in the toilet. ;) But then again that is Hackskii............lol.
Well he wont be on for 17days and hackskii was probably using more than 15mgs aday...
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Fits, if you go with the winny, post up the info and progress mate, as its probably what i am going to do next (or var)......would be good to see how it goes with you ie weight stats etc
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Results wise...good...a lot less likely to put any water on...and defo worth a try...winny was the first drug I tried with this system and it worked ok for me...



Well he wont be on for 17days and hackskii was probably using more than 15mgs aday...

So the same deal? 10/15mg winny per day, taken in the morning, with grapefruit juice (maybe) 2 weeks on two off, and the results in size/strength to be as good as Dbol? any sides more likey?
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So the same deal? 10/15mg winny per day, taken in the morning, with grapefruit juice (maybe) 2 weeks on two off, and the results in size/strength to be as good as Dbol? any sides more likey?
You wont hold as much water, but water does give you strength. Leverage factor.
Hackskii did 50mg tabs.
I did 3, 10mg tabs for 17 days and made gains without any noticable shutdown. Each 10mg tab I took felt like my bp got elevated.
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So the same deal? 10/15mg winny per day, taken in the morning, with grapefruit juice (maybe) 2 weeks on two off, and the results in size/strength to be as good as Dbol? any sides more likey?
Yeah same deal as with dbol...but I wouldnt use the grapefruit just yet...just see how you go without it first couple cycles....

Results wise...less water but gains will look more solid and the physique should take on a harder appearence...
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Yeah same deal as with dbol...but I wouldnt use the grapefruit just yet...just see how you go without it first couple cycles....

Results wise...less water but gains will look more solid and the physique should take on a harder appearence...

Ok, so what would you suggest i start at? 10mg or 15? im sure you mentioned S69 could have started lower than he did? or shoudl i just go with 15mg as we know it works......with Dbol any way...?

By the way OSC if you have any of your secrets you want to pass on feel free to PM me lol

oh, and do i run it on its own?

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Ok, so what would you suggest i start at? 10mg or 15? im sure you mentioned S69 could have started lower than he did? or shoudl i just go with 15mg as we know it works......with Dbol any way...?
I would be tempted to try 10mg for the first 2 cycles...see how it goes and then decide if you need to up it to 15mg...


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Yes..but I do have another idea for a stack to be used later....

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LMAO....lots secrets just not sure if I can share them...

I am working with S69 real soon to try a "NEW" delivery method which should help tremendously with getting some more gains.....More on that next year...:p
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LMAO....lots secrets just not sure if I can share them...

I am working with S69 real soon to try a "NEW" delivery method which should help tremendously with getting some more gains.....More on that next year...:p

interesting stuff (ssshhhhh!!! ) looking forward to it


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Ok so 10mg per day, i'll be happy with that as there will be less spare test to change into (or do whatever it does) DHT and speen up the hair loss lol

I have never used AAS before so forgive my ignorance.

So i should not experiance any shut down, but what are the most obvious signs for sides i should look for? I know the whole point is to reduce them but if i was to get them?? also shouls i have anything to hand incase i see signs of sides?

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whats the benifit of grape fruit juice ? does it afect the break down of the drug or absorbtion ?
i love all these little tricks..
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but what are the most obvious signs for sides i should look for? I know the whole point is to reduce them but if i was to get them?? also shouls i have anything to hand incase i see signs of sides?

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Obvious signs on cycle are itchy or tender nipples and water retention that will elevate blood pressure. Nolva for the itchy nipples and keep the salt way down to avoid water retention. I really dont think you will run into any problems at that low of a dose and that short of time.
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I will leave this up to the Cookie Monster....lol.
Grapefruit in general is really good for fat lose, that's whole grapefruits mate.
Welcome to the board fat matt!
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