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winger · 13-09-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ONE SMART COOKIE

Fingers croseed....

We`ll have to watch your weight daily to make adjustments so the gains keep coming.

Uncooked eggs here they come.......lol.

**hackskii** · 14-09-2005, 03:09 AM

Well, Cookie is smart and will devise a plan of attack that will be productive.
I am sure of that!
Shib comes to mind, firstly.

Watch out for chewing all of your supplements

I am laughing right now at the disgust of that.
If you can do what he says then you will be better off.

I am sure you will be happy with the results if you stay strict.

Please keep us posted........................ok?

winger · 14-09-2005, 03:16 AM

Man, OSC is the sh1t when it comes to diet. I honestly dont think to many can do what HE tells you too. Get ready to take in hand fulls of desicated defated liver tabs................lol.

**hackskii** · 14-09-2005, 03:35 AM

Dessicated liver is good stuff for sure.
Be aware of chewing them

JSM · 14-09-2005, 03:39 AM

Now that you guys are on the topic of D. Liver tabs can you Hackskii give some nutrional value on those things. You know why they are so good. I hear great things about them.

**hackskii** · 14-09-2005, 03:58 AM

Dessicated liver is a protein source.
Dessicated liver is a glandular substance which can have growth factor issues.

Glandulars is nothing new, they have been around for ages, Raw Male (testicles), Liver (one of the best things for anemia), every thing that effects the body is in food.

Whether we are talking about glandulars or just food.
Food is the most anabolic/catabolic substance known to man.

Many people feel that glandulars supplement the deifiencies that occur in ordanary life.

So with that thinking the guy with a bad heart will take an extract of heart.
Or the guy that is low testosterone will take the extract of testicles.
I do agree with this but I also think that there are vegetable extracts that can do the same thing.

Example, Liver.......Liv52, Milk Thistle, ALA, and others. Now dont get me wrong, I agree with the extracts in glandulars do work but maybe other things might work good and are cheaper to obtain and are more functional.

Liver tabs were very common 40 years ago.
Now whey and whey isolates are common.
Which work better?

For a specific function, there are specific meds or supplements, all have their place.

Eggs for example are a cheap source of protein and the best source of protein for a food group.
Free range are best but we dont have accesss to those.

Bulls balls are said to increase libido but I am not willing to eat a plate of those to increase my sex drive/libido, to test this out

..............................

Are liver tabs good?
Yes
Is whey protein good?
Yes

Anyone who does not get enough protein in their diet will have problems, where you get it and from what source is up to the individule and is also individule too.
What works for one does not work for all.

JSM · 14-09-2005, 04:05 AM

So I would guess then taking liver tabs with your meals is just a good way to add extra protein. A good source of protein.

winger · 14-09-2005, 04:31 AM

OSC loves the old school approach, it did work for those guys like Arnold.;) There is no doubt following OSC diet you will get nutrition.

**hackskii** · 14-09-2005, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSM

So I would guess then taking liver tabs with your meals is just a good way to add extra protein. A good source of protein.

Yes, if you are not getting enough already.
Maybe a factor in being a good, maybe a factor in not.

I think between meals as a supp would be best but that is just me and nobody elses opinion.

Maybe I might have to pound down a bunch of these to see if it is good stuff:lift:

samurai69 · 14-09-2005, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

Dessicated liver is good stuff for sure.
Be aware of chewing them

Unfortunately

, they are not easy to get hold of here ;) , its easier to go in to a chemist and buy AAs :rolleye11 than it is to get desicated Liver Tabs.

So unfortunatelly I wont be taking them

In the old days I remember having a bottle of them tablets the size of rugby balls and you were supposed to take 6 or 9 of them 3 times a day

:o

ONE SMART COOKIE · 14-09-2005, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSM

So I would guess then taking liver tabs with your meals is just a good way to add extra protein. A good source of protein.

Not just for adding extra protein but also p450 which helps clean your liver and blood,plus with the extra iron and b vits the liver tabs give greatly increases pumps and overall muscle fullness and overall energy levels for the day(I recomend not taking after 4pm because of this or you wont sleep right)

I found the best way to take them was 5 every 1-2hrs depending on your budget for 3 weeks then rest for 1 week as too much iron is bad for the immune system.

Winger?hackskii:love:

winger · 14-09-2005, 02:26 PM

Gota bump for Cookie but I think Shib was taking 100 a day all chewed...eewww

kevo · 14-09-2005, 02:30 PM

Liver tabs eh?! sound top. Where from, how much guys?

ta, Kev

ONE SMART COOKIE · 14-09-2005, 02:51 PM

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Liver tabs eh?! sound top. Where from, how much guys?

H&B sell some that aint too bad...start with 3 4x`s aday and build from there..

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Gota bump for Cookie but I think Shib was taking 100 a day all chewed...eewww

I think it was about 50 he was on...I lost all the info i sent him when computer crashed:boohoo: and there aint nothing wrong with chewing it increases absobtion of all the nutrients...

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Well, Cookie is smart and will devise a plan of attack that will be productive.

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Man, OSC is the sh1t when it comes to diet. I honestly dont think to many can do what HE tells you too.

Quote:

OSC loves the old school approach, it did work for those guys like Arnold.;) There is no doubt following OSC diet you will get nutrition.

A copy & paste from Bio about yours trully(I`m so proud of it)

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One Smart Cookie - this man has probably forgotten more about training & nutrition than i have learned as of yet. Another great guy who i count myself lucky to be able to call friend. The first person to send a card when my son Cameron was born. That will NEVER be forgotten. Any & all of us should listen to this guy. If you have an interest in the golden age of BB'ing (which im 100% sure is why we are all here) & want to look like a Greek God i suggest you talk to him! It even worked for me with my thick waist and not-so-classic physique.

kevo · 14-09-2005, 02:56 PM

Cheers OSC,
how long till I increase the ammount, and what do i increase too? how much extra protien would this provide roughly? and after the week off, do I just jump back on at the full ammountx3 or build up?

14-09-2005, 03:09 AM	#302 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 30,078	Well, Cookie is smart and will devise a plan of attack that will be productive. I am sure of that! Shib comes to mind, firstly. Watch out for chewing all of your supplements I am laughing right now at the disgust of that. If you can do what he says then you will be better off. I am sure you will be happy with the results if you stay strict. Please keep us posted........................ok? __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

14-09-2005, 03:35 AM	#304 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 30,078	Dessicated liver is good stuff for sure. Be aware of chewing them __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

14-09-2005, 03:58 AM	#306 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 30,078	Dessicated liver is a protein source. Dessicated liver is a glandular substance which can have growth factor issues. Glandulars is nothing new, they have been around for ages, Raw Male (testicles), Liver (one of the best things for anemia), every thing that effects the body is in food. Whether we are talking about glandulars or just food. Food is the most anabolic/catabolic substance known to man. Many people feel that glandulars supplement the deifiencies that occur in ordanary life. So with that thinking the guy with a bad heart will take an extract of heart. Or the guy that is low testosterone will take the extract of testicles. I do agree with this but I also think that there are vegetable extracts that can do the same thing. Example, Liver.......Liv52, Milk Thistle, ALA, and others. Now dont get me wrong, I agree with the extracts in glandulars do work but maybe other things might work good and are cheaper to obtain and are more functional. Liver tabs were very common 40 years ago. Now whey and whey isolates are common. Which work better? For a specific function, there are specific meds or supplements, all have their place. Eggs for example are a cheap source of protein and the best source of protein for a food group. Free range are best but we dont have accesss to those. Bulls balls are said to increase libido but I am not willing to eat a plate of those to increase my sex drive/libido, to test this out.............................. Are liver tabs good? Yes Is whey protein good? Yes Anyone who does not get enough protein in their diet will have problems, where you get it and from what source is up to the individule and is also individule too. What works for one does not work for all. __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

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14-09-2005, 03:16 AM	#303 (permalink)
winger JW's Left Hand Man! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 14,907 Blog Entries: 1	Man, OSC is the sh1t when it comes to diet. I honestly dont think to many can do what HE tells you too. Get ready to take in hand fulls of desicated defated liver tabs................lol.

14-09-2005, 03:39 AM	#305 (permalink)
JSM Gym Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 125	Now that you guys are on the topic of D. Liver tabs can you Hackskii give some nutrional value on those things. You know why they are so good. I hear great things about them.

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JSM Gym Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 125	So I would guess then taking liver tabs with your meals is just a good way to add extra protein. A good source of protein.

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winger JW's Left Hand Man! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 14,907 Blog Entries: 1	OSC loves the old school approach, it did work for those guys like Arnold.;) There is no doubt following OSC diet you will get nutrition.

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winger JW's Left Hand Man! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 14,907 Blog Entries: 1	Gota bump for Cookie but I think Shib was taking 100 a day all chewed...eewww

14-09-2005, 02:30 PM	#313 (permalink)
kevo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,279	Liver tabs eh?! sound top. Where from, how much guys? ta, Kev

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kevo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,279	Cheers OSC, how long till I increase the ammount, and what do i increase too? how much extra protien would this provide roughly? and after the week off, do I just jump back on at the full ammountx3 or build up?