winger

Could be low blood sugar or maybe not enough water.

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samurai69

Usually pretty good, plenty of liquid before and during, also had breakfast only 1 1/2 hours before then a pre workout drink.

Temp was hitting mid 80s when i walked to gym and AC wasnt working well in gym, so i still reckon it was heat this time

Old Man GABA

I had the same lower back pain as you samurai69 on 20mg ED
made mowing the lawn or even bending over the sink to wash my hair a real pain,
500mg of ibuprofen EOD sorted it for me.

samurai69

Cheers, I will try that, I am moving house soon and could do without any major back pump

hackskii

But ibuprofen is hard on the liver.
There are natural anti-inflamitories like fish oils, cayenne, Turmeric (Curcuma longa), Ginger, Boswellin.
These are safer too.

There are more if you give me a PM and let me get home to my books then I can help more.
My best book got borrowed and it will be some time before she gives it back:(

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samurai69

bump

hackskii

Adding to this

Barley green is a good anti-inflammatory agent.

Also eat a lot of pineapple as bromelain is a natural anti-inflammatory that also speeds healing.

Ice every 4 hours or a cold (wet) compress.

Black cherry juice is a popular folk remedy for arthritus (2) eight ounce glasses a day.

Massage or stroking the muscle near the affected joint. Dont massage the joint itself.
10-15 minutes.

EPA or eicosapentaenoic acid helps to reduce inflammation by stimulating the production of prostaglandins.

500-1000 mg of Vitamin C.

Suger makes arthritis worse or joint stiffness.

Iron supplements can cause pain and swelling.

Magnetic thearpy is good.

Cayenne can be made into a paste too and applied to the effected area.

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samurai69

Thanks for that Hacks


The cherry thing looks good, we have a drink here made from cherries, called ginjinha (18% vol) will that do ;) .


I weighed in today at 93kg (204.5lbs) which is up a bit, someone asked me if i had lost some weight yesterday which is a good thing as it means i have probably lost some BF, I definately look better rear delts show now, slightly more definition on the abs etc

Strength is still going up (all be it slightly) and where weight is not going up, reps are jumping considerably

Coming to the end of second 14 day cycle only 2 more days left and no sign of shutdown, infact balls feel fuller ........

I have no sign of itchy nipples this time so will probably not take any nolva.

I have creatine, on time this time, so will only start taking it at the start of my 14 day off cycle (5 grams per day.... no loading dose).

off to do arms now, triceps have actually seen the best continual strength gains, biceps have increased, but the dumbells jump 10 lbs at this level and I have probably jumped too quickly and too much with the barbell stuff i have been doing.

Yesterdays workout was legs, managed a 10kg jump on squats......took everything else fairly light as i do not want to damage my now healing hamstring

fits

sounds like its going well mate!!!! can you sumerise the differences up to now from the start for us so we can use it as a reference??

keep it up mate sounds like yourdoing well!!!

samurai69

Will do, on sunday with weigh in etc ;)

samurai69

Last day of second cycle and just weighed in at 93kg (204.6 lbs), so in 6 weeks i have gained 4.5kg (10lbs). I have to say I dont look or feel that much heavier

Thats on a total of only 140mg of d-bol, people are taking that amount in 3 days.

I look more muscular, there is no puffines, i am pretty sure i have lost BF aswell.

There have been no sides apart from the lower back pumping up quickly (its not back pain as such just massive tightness). No signs of shutdown and no itchy nipple this time.

Weight on all lifts has increased except were the jump has been too much and in those cases the reps have gone up considerably.

So over the next 14 days i will continue training the same and eating well and will be supplementing with creatine.

I am moving house towards the end of this 14 day off cycle or the begining of the next 14 day d-bol cycle and this is sure to affect training somwhat,

The gym i train at also has funny hours during august and this may also affect training a bit.

I will not post up stats or pics until either the end of my next 14 day cycle or possibly 14 days after that (which would allow for water loss as well - and would be a truer indication of size gains).

Will keep you all posted



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ONE SMART COOKIE

Told ya it would work and keep working(insert massive smug grin & pat on the back)

I would be interested though in seeing your diet and full training routine together..simply because with a couple tweaks here and there your gains could be doubled imho and more than likely continue to get leaner;) :lift: :spammer: ;)

fits

Nice one S69, thanks for keeping us posted, all going well.

It woudl be good to see your diet and training, any chance?

And cookie, are you going to share the tweaks with all of as?

samurai69

I will post up a diet and workout proper once i have moved and sorted myself out..................maybe we could look at tweaking things for the cycle running up to christmas............that would get the move out the way and also we have people over so will be very loose on the diet through to the end of august

So maybe we can sort it for the september start



Also, taking 5g creatine per day with no loading dose, is that right??



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ONE SMART COOKIE

Maybe depends on what mood I`m in when I get outta bed:axe: lol



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