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Old 17-11-2003, 08:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question newbie needs major advice

I guess I like to start off by saying hello to everybody. I have read a lot of these posts and it makes me wonder why I haven’t joined sooner since I started doing cycles and what not. There is a lot of incredible advice dished out on a daily bases here.
I have a series of questions to ask because I have been listening to people that it now appears to know less than what they say they do about steroids. Here is a brief background of my experience so if any of you pros have any answers and/or advice for me it would help tremendously.
I have taken a couple of smaller cycles before. One was a dbol cycle that reached no more than 30 mg a day before a series of panic attacks cut it short after four weeks. I had gained 15 lbs and kept 8 of it. The second was an interrupted 10 week decca and sp****ly stacked dbol cycle. Meaning I went on a trip after 8 weeks of a cycle for two weeks and then came back and did the other two shots. I only used the dbol for three weeks with no more than 15 mg a week. I’m not sure that the dbol helped at all.(wanted to use up the rest of it)
The first cycle, like I said, yielded 15 pounds total and I kept 8 of it with no side effects afterwards or much loss in strength. The second cycle yielded the same weight gain and retention but I had high blood pressure and acne for weeks afterwards to show for it. I am not prone to acne so I was surprised I was afflicted with it. Also I was left with puffy nipples as well. I used a small amount of clomid after the first cycle and did not use clomid after the second cycle. Each time I was told that clomid wasn’t necessary because the amounts I was using so I didn’t think anything of it not using it.
I am ready for my third cycle and I was going to take QV 250 at 1cc for 10wks and stack that with dbol. I probably will not be taking any more than 25-30mgs of dbol a week for four weeks.
My questions are: Is this a good cycle? Is there any way of tweaking it without upping the dosages? (I have general feeling of what my body’s limits are and don’t want to stress it too much) Should Nova be involved? How much? When? Clomid? How long after the cycle should I start? How much Clomid is needed? Milk thistle is new to me, should I be looking into that? If so, how much and when do I need to take it?
I have the lifting, diet and the rest thing down so I am most concerned with not taking another sloppy cycle again and to make sure I do this upcoming cycle properly and to have a post-cycle regimen planned out.
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Old 17-11-2003, 11:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The more experienced guys will help u out with the cycle and post cycle but milk thistle is a must if your taking orals like d-bol which is toxic to the liver,it helps keep the liver funtioning properly, its available from health shops and in the uk its like £5 for 100 tabs (125)mg,so you'll be able to get it easy in the U.S. Recommended doses of about 3-4 tabs Each day throughout the cycle and continue it a few weeks post cycle so the liver toxicity can return to normal, hope that helped mate
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Hello mate

Have you already got the QV250? If you havent i would change your cycle.

Try this for a quality cycle bro

1-4: Dbol@40mg ED
1-8: Sust250@500mg WK
1-8: Deca@400mg WK
9-12: Winny@50mg ED

Clomid for Therepy after

This should see a good 20 - 30lb increase as long as you eat big and train hard bro.

Take Nolva only if signs of Gyno appear.

Also, rather than milk thistle get some ALA and take it between 2,000mg and 3,000mg daily.

Hope this helps bro

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I already have the QV and the dbol. I mos def appreciate the help and advice.
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If you already have it mate then thats fine

Week 1-4 Dianabol@30mg ED (NOT LONGER THAN 6 WEEKS)
Week 1-10 QV250@250mg WK

Should see some reasonable gains from that.

Remember to eat LOADS and train hard.

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