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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    do you see a place for it if coming off long cycles and blast and cruise to get eatrogen down asap to aid recover?

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    the problem im o with blast cruising is after a coulpe months on 1-2g of gear lpu when u drop down to 500mg or less yuo feel like your off gear!!! oestrogen is still high from your blast your receptors are ****ed and used to way more and ure body is producing all the counteractive hormones (cortisol etc) in response to teh higher dose but your on the lower dose so u feel like ****! most people end up running a much higher cruise then to compensate!! also lets be honest who knows what your going to want in ten years time!?! i look at it like this im 25 now and i have smashed the gear int he last few years, and had a LOT of fun but imagine if in 5-10 years im with someone i really love and we get married then I cant have kids or I cant get a proper boner or have a proper sex life! i think id sooner come off gear for reasonable periods than have to face that! what you lot do is your own choice... believe me im not preaching btwq i just think a lot of people are gonna end up ****ed from jumping onto this blast cruise at the drop of a hat because its the forum "trend" at the mo

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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    I was under the impression that this receptor downregulation theory was just internet myth.

    People make their own choices, just seems that some people want justification for their choices...

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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChris View Post
    I was under the impression that this receptor downregulation theory was just internet myth.

    People make their own choices, just seems that some people want justification for their choices...


    exactly blokes on HRT dont have issue with boners etc.

    You do your research you make educated choices and you deal with the consequences

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    Quote Originally Posted by danimal View Post
    because its the forum "trend" at the mo

    Blast cruising is far from being a forum trend.

    It actually came about because of the ease muscle drops off when off cycle.

    You should look at tapers to answer the issues you raise in your post of going from 2g to 500mg.

    There's a lot of good info on blast cruising properly but it needs thinking about and studying to see if it suits each individual...As said it isn't the latest fad - it is actually a very successfull way of running gear I mean if you don't ever want to face any the issues gear brings - don't do it atall.

    Cycling is not any better for you than blast cruising unless you have long breaks - and see how you build a top body doing that if you are average

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    lol well talking as someone who has done it for a year, i felt like **** when on a cruise of under 500mg and even if u stay on the same dose say a gram of test for a long period of time ure sex drive will drop off! well it does in my case anyway! also i have found unless i come off gear altogether for a few weeks my receptors clog up and i make no urther gains than teh initial gains in fact often maybe even lose some while still on!
    all i can do is tell you in my experience staying on gear for long periods of time is counter productive and better gains can be attained from short cycles with even shorter breaks (ie 6 on 4 off) however the safest way imo is time on -== at least time off! im quite sure some of the guys who are on a shot of test for the rest of their lives now ill tell u the same thing!

    that being said its up to you all to make your own choices, im just saying in my experience the benefits do not out weigh the risks and nor do the gains

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    re receptor downregulation maybe some of the more experienced guys who have run long cycles (paul james l etc) at higher doses could add their 2 pennies? there must bea reasonwhy gains slow and stop after a long period of time on, if its not receptor down reg then it must be catabolic hormonal releases or somethign the like?

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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    Quote Originally Posted by danimal View Post
    lol well talking as someone who has done it for a year, i felt like **** when on a cruise of under 500mg and even if u stay on the same dose say a gram of test for a long period of time ure sex drive will drop off! well it does in my case anyway!
    I've been on 15 months. High of 1850mg EW mixed meds, 6 week cruises on 250mg ew.

    No AI, no serm, no HCG no problems

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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    LOL yes but you are a machine!! lol

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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    Quote Originally Posted by danimal View Post
    lol well talking as someone who has done it for a year, i felt like **** when on a cruise of under 500mg and even if u stay on the same dose say a gram of test for a long period of time ure sex drive will drop off! well it does in my case anyway! also i have found unless i come off gear altogether for a few weeks my receptors clog up and i make no urther gains than teh initial gains in fact often maybe even lose some while still on!
    all i can do is tell you in my experience staying on gear for long periods of time is counter productive and better gains can be attained from short cycles with even shorter breaks (ie 6 on 4 off) however the safest way imo is time on -== at least time off! im quite sure some of the guys who are on a shot of test for the rest of their lives now ill tell u the same thing!

    that being said its up to you all to make your own choices, im just saying in my experience the benefits do not out weigh the risks and nor do the gains

    I don't see what short cycles achieve? You shut yourself down, the break will not normalise anything, then go straight back on. Seems rather illogical.

    As for not gaining, thats more likely due to training and diet TBH rather than receptors 'clogging up'

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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    Of course receptors get less responsive and cortisol etc rises ...you can't stay on higher and higher dodses for ever but there are people on this forum right now been on more than 1g a week for years blasting on 3 or 4g and still gaining

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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    Quote Originally Posted by danimal View Post
    LOL yes but you are a machine!! lol
    Well oiled most of the time

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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    Quote Originally Posted by danimal View Post
    re receptor downregulation maybe some of the more experienced guys who have run long cycles (paul james l etc) at higher doses could add their 2 pennies? there must bea reasonwhy gains slow and stop after a long period of time on, if its not receptor down reg then it must be catabolic hormonal releases or somethign the like?
    Well you can't keep growing all the time, the body grows in spurts.
    If growth was linear then we would all be huge.

    I think a good approach is to use the cruise period for priming and shifting a few lbs of fat, then the blast is to add some lean tissue as the body will be more receptive to the nutrients following the prime. Interesting article by Marcus300 that I have posted on here before.

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    lol oh golly this is turning into me vs everyone haha i not trying to haev no forum fights lol just trying (badly) to put my experience across

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    Re: HOW DANGEROUS IS BLASTING AND CRUISING?

    Blast cruising still isn't perfect - you still have to go from a high amount of AAS at some point to a lower amount...the catabolic balance can and does swing in favour of decreased size even in this controllable state if you are clever and carfeful

    ... but to go from a high androgen state - to fuk all (cycling) - trying desperately to get your p1ssy little pathetc squirt of natty juice online quickley into muscles that are not really in a receptor state to use it - spells rapid shrinking post cycle disaster for many...usually made worse by training too much and eating too much - hello fatty no size!!

 

 
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