TURTLE21

week 1 - 6 sus 250mg & deca200mg
week 6 - 10 sus 500mg
week 10 - 16 sus 500mg & 1ml tren

hi all,
what weight/strengh gains would you expect to see from the addition on the tren? i train 4 days, hour a day, train body parts. diet can be random but intake is 3,000-5,000cals a day, protein is about 200-300g a day. just as a rough guide im asking i know there is alot of factors but just a guideline to what i should expect to see.

thanks alot

Cheese

Is fine as far as cycle go, couldn't predict what gains you'll get though.

jw007

If I was you I would just Run 10 weeks

500mg test week 2-300mg tren

I would start with the tren as its far superior aas to deca, but you might not get on with it due to its querky nature of funny sides etc

If that is case you could drop it and run deca instead....

No need to run both..

If 1st time using Tren 300mg with test should give some substantial strength gains at very least

TURTLE21

thanks guys,
forgot to say, im running this cycle now....
im on week nine now so cant stop at ten weeks
have no PCT stuff for 4ish more weeks (my supplier)
so goin to run 16 weeks. wanted to add something thou
and deca aint the best. so adding tren told it was a good stack for strengh

should i expect fat loss?
cut up slightly?

freddee

I agree with what,JW said, I think you will prefare it to deca and see strength gains, but might see some sides like insomnia, lethargy, and a lower cardio output, you might also experience tren cough, but that is mainly with tren ace (which tren have you got) anyway I prefare tren, the shutdown with deca can be bad..

TURTLE21

ya gotta agree with him.. look at size of him hes huge haha

what is lethargy? not familiar with this term

also i will find out 2morrow what it is,
supplier is very reliable.

thanks for your comments freddie, and every1 else. much apprechiated

buchanan

Lethargy, mate means that tren makes you feel tired! and it honestly does! i make my own tren acetate, and i do 700mg a week, i take it your going to do tren enanthate? its not as anabolic as acetate because of the longer ester, but its still approx 3 times more anabolic than test! id do what the guys said and go for 300mg a week to start with you should see a difference, in BF as well!

Ramrod

TBH mate you probably haven't noticed much from the Deca as the dose is too low. Should be 400mg pw minimum IMO. Why not just carry on as you are, get your PCT bits and then save the Tren for your next cycle?

buchanan

sorry pal, i was thinking more about your tren than your present cycle. i actualy just recomended the same to another guy. as ramrod said, i would recomend that 400mg pw is the lowest you should go with deca.