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Old 08-09-2009, 03:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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eph

ok guys

im looking into eph atm

but im currently just wanting to read up on it

see what gains your get/weight lose

and so on

but not sure if im just being a idiot but i cant seem to find much info on the stickys on it

all i can find is info on people taking it, but no real info into it

i was looking to find info on doses, is it a jab/tab, how long you run it for

take it before cardio/eod ect

any help on this would be great
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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EPH can give you an energy boost if you take it before a workout, or it can decrease food cravings if taken throughout the day.
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They enhance sweating, increase your heart rate a bit as they are a stimulant, the thing is its like anything 'more isn't better' so use em, feel the buzzing effect and have a gd session, when that feeling tapers off, discontinue for roughly 3 - 6 wks, then use again if u want/need to.

there are others, than eph, i use eph but it gives me a kick when training. do not stack it with any nitric oxide products as they work oppositely!
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Eph= Ephidrine, is a tablet theromgenic mate. Im sure you started another thread on this with reply's on how to make a ECA stack a few day's ago????

IMO it not that good as a " fat burner " nor do i believe it boost metabolisim that much in the grand scheme of things, but it is good as a pre workout stim or at supressing appitite but they both dont last long.
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When i first began taking em, i took like 2 before training, helped me push through long winded cardio sessions, but you sweat a lot. you can take one in the morning and one afternoon, as it supresses your apetite. you will peak on them and after about 4 - 6wks you wont feel much of the buzz.

they are in a tablet form.
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ephedrine is a stimulant drug, belonging to a group of medicines known as sympathomimetics. Specifically it is both an alpha and beta adrenergenic agonist (you may remember Clenbuterol is a selective beta-2 agonist). In addition, ephedrine enhances the release of norepinephrine, a strong endogenous alpha agonist. The action of this compound is notably similar to that of the body's primary adrenergic hormone epinephrine (adrenaline), which also exhibits action toward both alpha and beta receptors. When administered, ephedrine will notably increase the activity of the central nervous system, as well as have a stimulatory effect on other target cells. This will produce a number of effects beneficial to the athlete. For starters, the user's body temperature should rise slightly as more free fatty acids are produced from the breakdown of triglycerides in adipose tissue (stimulating the metabolism). This should help the user shed subcutaneous body fat stores, enhancing the look of definition in the physique. The anabolic effectiveness of steroids may also be increased with this substance (mildly), as the metabolic rate is a measure of fat, protein and carbohydrate conversion by the body. An enhanced metabolic state could clearly hasten the deposit of new muscle mass.

This stimulant effect of this drug will also increase the force of skeletal muscle contractions. For this reason ephedrine is commonly used by powerlifters before a competition, as the resultant (slight) strength and energy increase can clearly improve the weight totals on major lifts. It may also provide a notable mental edge, as the user is more energetic and better able to concentrate on the tasks ahead. Many recreational weight lifters find this effect particularly welcome, and use 25-50mg of this stimulant as a regular adjunct to their training sessions. The user often feels capable of attacking the weights with much more intensity while taking ephedrine, and leaves the gym knowing they will have had a more productive workout. It is important that this compound not be used continuously for this purpose, as its effect will diminish as the body becomes accustomed to the drug. In most instances the user will take the drug only two or three times per week, usually on those days personally "important" (like chest day).

The athlete is also wise to take a break (one to two months) from ephedrine treatment after several weeks have past, so as to continue receiving the optimal effect from this drug. While the strength boosting effect of this drug is noteworthy, the primary application for ephedrine remains to be as a cutting agent. The athlete will generally take this drug a few times daily during dieting phases of training, at a dosage of 25 to 50mg per application. The widely touted stack of ephedrine (25-50mg), caffeine (200mg) and aspirin (300mg) is shown to be extremely potent for fat loss. In this combination, the ephedrine and caffeine both act as notable thermogenic stimulants.

The added aspirin also helps to inhibit lipogenesis by blocking the incorporation of acetate into fatty acids. The athlete will be sure this stack is working by noticing an increase in body temperature, usually a degree or so (not an uncomfortable raise). This combination is taken two to three times daily, for a number of consecutive weeks. It is discontinued once the user's body temperature drops back to normal, a clear sign these drugs are no longer working as desired. At this point increasing the dosages would not prove very efficient. Instead a break of several weeks should be taken, so that this stack may once again work at an optimal level.

Ephedrine can produce a number of unwelcome side effects that the user should be aware of. For starters, the stimulant effect can produce shaky hands, tremors, sweating, rapid heartbeat, dizziness and feelings of inner unrest. Often these effects subside as the user becomes more accustomed to the effect of this drug, or perhaps the dosage is lowered. In general, those negatively impacted by caffeine would probably not like the stronger effects of ephedrine. The mental and physical state produced by this drug is also quite similar to that seen with Clenbuterol, so those who find little discomfort with this treatment should (presumably) be fine with this item (and vice versa).

While taking this drug one may also endure a notable loss of appetite, usually a welcome effect when dieting. Ephedrine is in fact a popular ingredient in combination (prescription) appetite suppressants. The user may further notice headaches and an increase in blood pressure with regular use of ephedrine. Those suffering from thyroid dysfunctions, high blood pressure or cardiac irregularities should also not be taking this drug, as it will certainly not mix well with such conditions.


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Ephedrine
Systematic (IUPAC) name
(1R,2S)-2-(methylamino)-1-phenylpropan-1-ol
Identifiers
CAS number 299-42-3
ATC code R01AA03 R03CA02 S01FB02
PubChem 5032
DrugBank DB01364
Chemical data
Formula C10H15NO
Mol. mass 165.23
Pharmacokinetic data
Bioavailability 85%
Metabolism minimal hepatic
Half life 3–6 hours

Ephedrine (EPH) is a sympathomimetic amine commonly used as a stimulant, appetite suppressant, concentration aid, decongestant and to treat hypotension associated with regional anaesthesia. Ephedrine is similar in structure to the synthetic derivatives amphetamine and methamphetamine. Chemically, it is an alkaloid derived from various plants in the genus Ephedra (family Ephedraceae). It is most usually marketed in the hydrochloride and sulfate forms.

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Old 08-09-2009, 03:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Eph= Ephidrine, is a tablet theromgenic mate. Im sure you started another thread on this with reply's on how to make a ECA stack a few day's ago????

IMO it not that good as a " fat burner " nor do i believe it boost metabolisim that much in the grand scheme of things, but it is good as a pre workout stim or at supressing appitite but they both dont last long.
No it's not a thermogenic, it's a sympathomimetic amine (decongestant, bronchodilator) used as a stimulate and chemically similar to amphetamines.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:20 AM   #8 (permalink)
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well thats defo cleared that all up for me : )

yes rambo55 i had a thread simliar to this a while ago, so i researched more into but couldnt find much about eph for some reason??
so i started this thread to learn about eph as i had problems finding the stickys

thanks to all ill rep away for you lot
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Old 15-09-2009, 10:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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wow lots of good infomation there reps handed out, i may even start taking as a stim before workouts and before spin class.
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Useful for cutting due to energy when taken pretraining/cardio and for appetite suppresion. But basically the fat loss comes from those indirect effects rather than anything direct. If it does have any direct effect on fat loss i.e metabolism increase it's going to be very very minor.
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