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09-09-2003, 03:35 AM

Should i get testosterone 400 or Deca? I play baseball in college and need to know what would be better for me. I need to get stronger but at the same time keep built and trim i way bout 170 and would like to add 20lbs of lean muscle not fat. Which one if any of these products do i need the most, if not these what do i need. What is the difference in testosterone and deca.

**hackskii** · 15-09-2003, 05:31 PM

Both.

Jud6572 · 15-09-2003, 06:41 PM

Research is the key mate.

**Great White** · 16-09-2003, 08:58 AM

Run Both mate. Test 400 is a strange one to choose tho.

Trys this

Week 1-6: Dianabol@30/40mg ED
Week 1-8: Sust250@500mg WK
Week 1-8: Deca@400mg WK
Week 9-12: Winstrol (Oral or Depot)@50mg ED
Week 13+ Clomid

Should see 25lb - 30lb gains, will keep most of it

Cheers

Paul

17-09-2003, 05:19 AM

how come you suggest more than one steroid for a first time user? i mean, lets say he gets gyno...he wont know if the dbol caused it, the sust, or the deca...and the deca gyno will need something besides nolvadex to treat it...then next cycle, he wouldn't know what to leave out....
not a flame or disrespect....i just thought from all my research and on a bunch of other boards, that the best first cycle = test only at 500mg/week for 10 weeks....
whats your opinion on it?

Raven · 17-09-2003, 08:56 AM

I'm not sure I would run d-bol if you play baseball as it can bloat you and hinder your performance. I would maybe try a cycle of low dose test and winstol as this should also imrove athletic performance as well as muscle mass

Mr T · 17-09-2003, 09:37 AM

run 50mg priviron ed and gyno will not be a prob, btw running deca/test/dbol and if gyno occurs nolva is the treatment u use, proviron prevents it, nolva treats it..

Raven · 17-09-2003, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr T
run 50mg priviron ed and gyno will not be a prob, btw running deca/test/dbol and if gyno occurs nolva is the treatment u use, proviron prevents it, nolva treats it..

Not always the case, I have ran proviron with a cycle and still got gyno, it depends how prone your are.

Mr T · 17-09-2003, 11:51 AM

true mate, im currently week 4 into my sus deca cycle, got a lump after week 1, have been on proviron 50mg ed and nolva 40mg ed for about 3 weeks but lump still there, how long before it ****es of mate ??

Raven · 17-09-2003, 11:55 AM

Hard to say, taking nolva can take lumps away sometimes but most of the time they are there to stay. Just hope it doesn't get any worse!

Mr T · 17-09-2003, 12:07 PM

it happened me before and the lump went away but its back in the same place, looks like anti es from the beginning of future cycles for me......

Raven · 17-09-2003, 01:46 PM

Probably a good idea or you'll end up like Hardcore "I need gyno surgery" Raven!

18-09-2003, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr T
run 50mg priviron ed and gyno will not be a prob, btw running deca/test/dbol and if gyno occurs nolva is the treatment u use, proviron prevents it, nolva treats it..

gyno from deca is progestenic...
check out this post....
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/sh...ight=deca+gyno

Mr T · 18-09-2003, 09:18 AM

but if stacked with a test it need to be treated with nolva mate ..

Jock · 18-09-2003, 11:42 AM

Hey bro

I know there is a lot of steroids in baseball and I don't know the procedures but remember that Deca has an 18 month detection time.

peace, Jock

09-09-2003, 03:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
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Great White Sexy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 9,249	Run Both mate. Test 400 is a strange one to choose tho. Trys this Week 1-6: Dianabol@30/40mg ED Week 1-8: Sust250@500mg WK Week 1-8: Deca@400mg WK Week 9-12: Winstrol (Oral or Depot)@50mg ED Week 13+ Clomid Should see 25lb - 30lb gains, will keep most of it Cheers Paul __________________ Welcome to Uk-Muscle.co.uk "I was born perfect, and just like the great white shark, have never had to evolve!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Hardcore Bodybuilding & Powerlifting Community! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Bodybuilding & Sports Video Sharing Community!

17-09-2003, 08:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
Raven Hardcore Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Bowery Posts: 849	I'm not sure I would run d-bol if you play baseball as it can bloat you and hinder your performance. I would maybe try a cycle of low dose test and winstol as this should also imrove athletic performance as well as muscle mass __________________ To find what was lost you must first go back to the beginning and find it again To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. http://www.ucw.biz/

17-09-2003, 05:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
newbie99 Guest Posts: n/a	how come you suggest more than one steroid for a first time user? i mean, lets say he gets gyno...he wont know if the dbol caused it, the sust, or the deca...and the deca gyno will need something besides nolvadex to treat it...then next cycle, he wouldn't know what to leave out.... not a flame or disrespect....i just thought from all my research and on a bunch of other boards, that the best first cycle = test only at 500mg/week for 10 weeks.... whats your opinion on it?

17-09-2003, 09:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mr T Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: N.Ireland Posts: 709	run 50mg priviron ed and gyno will not be a prob, btw running deca/test/dbol and if gyno occurs nolva is the treatment u use, proviron prevents it, nolva treats it.. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

17-09-2003, 11:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mr T Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: N.Ireland Posts: 709	true mate, im currently week 4 into my sus deca cycle, got a lump after week 1, have been on proviron 50mg ed and nolva 40mg ed for about 3 weeks but lump still there, how long before it ***es of mate ?? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

17-09-2003, 11:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
Raven Hardcore Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Bowery Posts: 849	Hard to say, taking nolva can take lumps away sometimes but most of the time they are there to stay. Just hope it doesn't get any worse! __________________ To find what was lost you must first go back to the beginning and find it again To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. http://www.ucw.biz/

17-09-2003, 12:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mr T Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: N.Ireland Posts: 709	it happened me before and the lump went away but its back in the same place, looks like anti es from the beginning of future cycles for me...... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

17-09-2003, 01:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
Raven Hardcore Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Bowery Posts: 849	Probably a good idea or you'll end up like Hardcore "I need gyno surgery" Raven! __________________ To find what was lost you must first go back to the beginning and find it again To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. http://www.ucw.biz/

18-09-2003, 09:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mr T Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: N.Ireland Posts: 709	but if stacked with a test it need to be treated with nolva mate .. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

18-09-2003, 11:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,038	Hey bro I know there is a lot of steroids in baseball and I don't know the procedures but remember that Deca has an 18 month detection time. peace, Jock __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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