oliver Roberts

hay guys,

im planning my first cycle after much research and hours of reading.

bascilcy does this look right?

im looking to start with either test c/ test e or sust 250 at 500 mg

and using a simple pct like clomid?

was looking at adding hcg to the cycle but dont think its worth it as its a first cycle, most likey add that on my 2nd cycle.

im looking at running the test or sust for 12 weeks at 500mg aweek?

but what im not sure about is do i shoot 500 mg all at once or do i do 2 seperate shots such as 250mg of test 1 day and another 250 mg a few days later?

also i was planning my pct 21 days after my lat shot of test/ sust?

im not planning on doing the cycle any time soon but this is what i was planning on doing.

i have done lots of research i just need help on tweeking my cycle to get things 100%

any help would be highly appreicated

Falconski

21 days is a good time to wait before starting pct, some guys may wait bit longer. I prefer to give it three weeks.

As for doing shots weekly or twice weekly it depends on what test you go for. If you go for sus/cypionate/or enanthate you should be fine with just doing it in one weekly jab.

Checkout link below

http://www.steroidology.com/profiles/

Nemises

How do you mean hcg wouldnt be worth it for a first cycle? I see some people use it and other dont. Is it just if your doing more than 1 cycle?

AlasTTTair

I personally think it would probably be beneficial, but I think a first cycle has to be ultra simple, just so the user gets an understanding of the different meds. My first cycle was just test e and nolva. I'd have got lost if people had told me to use test e, nolva, clomid, hcg, adex etc.

Nemises

Yea that is understandable. Hcg seems quite complicated.

oliver Roberts

well to be honest i really not sure. im more tempted to go with sust as i can do it all in one shot. but what gives the better gains, test e, test c or sust? as iv never experienced any of them myself before im not sure whta going to be best benificial?

oliver Roberts

oliver Roberts

yes i defo agree gota keep it simple for my first cycle?

if i start if i start complicating things im just going get comfused.

think im going go with the test and clomid

dc55

All have the same effect. Test is test!!kinda!! Its just the ester length that changes. Cyp is a bit longer than enth. 7days for enth and 9 for cyp. Sust is a mixture of different esters. short/medium/long.

Gains will depend on diet.

Go for 500mg test, your choice which one. 10-12 weeks

PCT
Clomid - 100/50/50/25
Nolva - 40/20/20/20

Make sure you have an AI on hand before you start.

Maybe kick start with dbol or a tbol??

Willie

How do you think you recovered from that using just Nolva?

oliver Roberts

what does AI mean mate?

also with the clomid and nolva you put next to them

clomid - 100/50/50/25

nolva - 40/20/20/20

what do you mean with these numbers next to the clomid and nolva, take it thats the measurements of how much i need mate

oliver Roberts

so with the test i should be ok for running it for 10 weeks, but with the sust i need to run it for 12 weeks?

ba baracuss

Sustanon is test mate. Have a read of the esters sticky - sustanon has a blend of esters designed for SUStained release, while enanthate for example has one ester. Run either for 10 or 12 weeks, it doesn't really matter.

AI= aromatase inhibitor. Aromatase is an enzyme in the body which turns excess testosterone into estrogen compounds, which can lead to gyno.

Sounds like you need to do a bit more reading. Fire any questions you have up here though.

dc55

AI = Bara ^^^^^^^^


the numbers indicate mg per day.

oliver Roberts

fought it was measurments. thanks for the replys