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Old 18-02-2005, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question taking gear abroad.....

Hi all..

not been around for a while - as work has just neem too busy...

I'm about to strart a new cycel - sust and decca... my fav stack... BUT... I am meant to be goign on holiday to tenerife (puerto de la cruz)..


now I have a couple of problmes as I will be about half way through my stack - 1. I need to find a gym out there... and 2. can I take my weeks worth of gear out there with me... ?

I'm sure I'll find a guy - normaly I'd just take a week off - but I've only just had one and my traingin partner and I are running a cycle at the same time - we are finding that we are pushing each other better that way... and it means the other person isn't being left behind....

any ideas?
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Old 18-02-2005, 10:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I may be wrong but im sure you can buy gear over the counter in spain. Look for the pharmacia it has to be one of these not just a chemist. If you take your gear with you wrap in tin foil and the x-ray machines should not pick the vials up. I dont know about the pins though.
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Old 18-02-2005, 10:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If your only going for a week id bang it the weeks worth all in a few hours before you leave for the airport!

Its not ideal but beats worrying about customs etc..

This is assuming ur nt going a gram of sust and 600mg deca of course ;-)
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I may be wrong but im sure you can buy gear over the counter in spain. Look for the pharmacia it has to be one of these not just a chemist. .
SPAIN HAS BEEN CRACKING DOWN REAL HARD ON THIS, NOT SURE ABOUT CANARIES, BUT MAINLAND SPAIN IS.
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Old 18-02-2005, 10:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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agree with aftershock..not worth it mate.. shoot just b4 u go and as soon as u get back
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anyone know what the States like for taking gear through? Im off to florida for 2 weeks in May and I could be on a cycle then.. Best to UPS it to the hotel first I suppose?

Sorry for hyjacking ur thread DG ;-)
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anyone know what the States like for taking gear through? Im off to florida for 2 weeks in May and I could be on a cycle then.. Best to UPS it to the hotel first I suppose?

Sorry for hyjacking ur thread DG ;-)
The US is one of the strictest countries in the world when it comes to gear you might want to read this before you go posting your self gear

Controlled Deliveries
By Rick Collins, J.D.

If investigators want to bust you for a juice package, their goal will be to get you to take possession of the package. There are two reasons: 1) once you accept a package of contraband, you can be arrested for possessing it; and 2) the feds will have generally obtained a warrant to search your house that cannot be executed until you accept the package.


That’s where your signature comes in. Signing for the package removes any argument that you didn’t accept it. Especially when it’s supported by the undercover agent’s testimony about the conversation that took place. “Are you Johnny Johnson?” You said, “Yes.” “Will you accept this package?” You said, “Of course!” and looked really excited when you saw the return address from China.

Could accepting possession be proven in other ways? Absolutely. The issue is determined by looking at everything you did and said. In the conversation we just described, you said you were the person who intended to receive the package, and you explicitly stated that you would accept it. The absence of a signature won’t magically protect you!

What if you refuse to sign, but try to accept the package verbally? A real courier wouldn’t give it to you if a signature was required, but let’s say this undercover agent courier would. Have you avoided an arrest and search? Of course not, because you’ve accepted the package! What’s more, your cagey behavior will be used against you to prove your knowledge of the illegal contents of the package – why else would you refuse to sign?

I’ve seen a number of cases where the target gets a funky feeling about the delivery guy and rejects the package. The undercover courier will then do everything possible to get the package into the target’s hands, with or without a signature. It’s the only way to execute the raid. In one desperate case, the courier blew his cover and flashed a badge. He summoned his partner, and the two asked to step inside to talk about the package. The target told them he had no idea what was in the package and that they most certainly could not come into his house. The agents said the package contained suspected drugs, and asked if they could open it. “Do what you want, it’s not my package.” They opened it, and inside were 500 Anabol tablets. “My mistake,” one agent said. “These are okay. You can import a personal use supply. Here, you can take them.” Nice try. The target told the agent to stick the tabs where the sun don’t shine and avoided an arrest and raid by the eight other agents skulking in wait just off the property.

Given the headaches presented by savvy suspects, law enforcers are taking a new approach: wiring the package to signal when it’s opened. When someone opens a package, that’s good evidence that he’s the one who knowingly intended to possess it, right? It might even be stronger evidence than signing for it. The application for the search warrant will request authorization to execute the raid once the signal goes off. Several jurisdictions have begun using electronic signaling devices, typically AT-4’s, to confirm that a target has opened his package. No part of the device is visible unless the package is opened. It makes no audible sound but transmits an alert signal to a remote receiver manned by the agents. These devices are perfect in cases where a signature request might spook the target. An AT-4 can make the difference between a botched operation and a valid arrest and raid. Be aware that it’s likely the wave of the future. [For a complete discussion of controlled deliveries, check out Legal Muscle].

Rick Collins, J.D., a veteran lawyer and former competitive bodybuilder, is the author of the groundbreaking new book LEGAL MUSCLE: Anabolics in America, available through this site. [© Rick Collins, 2003. All rights reserved. For informational purposes only, not to be construed as legal advice.]
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Personally i wouldnt take any drugs abroad at all, its not worth the hassle. I usually keep my holidays down to just 4 days when im on, that way it doesnt mess up with my cycle, and time my longer holidays for when im off.

As others have said, you can get away with injecting them the day you fly and then when you get back.
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anyone know what the States like for taking gear through? Im off to florida for 2 weeks in May and I could be on a cycle then.. Best to UPS it to the hotel first I suppose?

Sorry for hyjacking ur thread DG ;-)
Don't take it with you on the plane, Florida is the place where most of the drugs arrive in the U.S. Therefore, the customs agents are on high alert. Shipping it UPS would be your best bet if you HAD to have it with you. If they are orals you could put them in a different bottle, say a vitamin bottle or something.
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hmmm.. it is quite a big cycle...

1500mg of sust pw
400mg of decca pw
50mg proviron pd.

and I don't think it would be a good idea to bang it alll in just before I go... :( but I normaly do it mon, wed, fri... I fly out on the monday so would only need to take 4vials of sust and 1 vial of decca (+the proviron).
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For f**ks sake don't carry any gear into the U.S through an airport - AAS are all scheduled drugs over there (including even prohormones now), which means that legally they're treated exactly the same as heroin, cocaine etc. So if they find a few amps of sust in your luggage you're going to jail...

Spain, on the other hand, used to be pretty mellow, although I've heard they're cracking down more now. I wouldn't have thought you'd have much chance of being searched going in either, not from an EEC country. Your main problem is going to be airport security - if you have silver foil wrapped amps in your bag they'll set the decectors off, and they're going to want to know what's in there. You'd be better off keeping them on your person, and NOT wrapped in anything metal.

Next time just book a holiday in Turkey, buy your gear over the counter and mail some home. Or Egypt (hcg, $3/amp! )
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good thnking - I think I will jsut put the amps of sust on me, I'll take one vial of decca in my bag. the only thing is what do I do withthe pins etc...?
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For f**ks sake don't carry any gear into the U.S through an airport - AAS are all scheduled drugs over there (including even prohormones now), which means that legally they're treated exactly the same as heroin, cocaine etc. So if they find a few amps of sust in your luggage you're going to jail...

Spain, on the other hand, used to be pretty mellow, although I've heard they're cracking down more now. I wouldn't have thought you'd have much chance of being searched going in either, not from an EEC country. Your main problem is going to be airport security - if you have silver foil wrapped amps in your bag they'll set the decectors off, and they're going to want to know what's in there. You'd be better off keeping them on your person, and NOT wrapped in anything metal.

Next time just book a holiday in Turkey, buy your gear over the counter and mail some home. Or Egypt (hcg, $3/amp! )
AAS are Schedule III in the u.s so they are not the the same as cocain and heroin which are Schedule II
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Amps in the crotch with tight fitting underware.
Pins, you can buy them online and ship to your door.

Or just bang that stuff before you go. Deca and Sust have long acting esters in them and it will be ok for a week maybe a little more.
That is alot of gear tho and both cheaks will be tender
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Amps in a shampoo bottle(head and shoulders) worked for me.
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