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Old 16-02-2005, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Clen & Eca Cycle's

As most of you know i normally use clen two weeks on two weeks off, but i keep seeing posts from people who also use Eca, as i never used to have to cut up and have only learnt how to use clen correctly this year i was just wondering how i add the Eca to a cycle. This is my current cycle below so if you could advise how much and on what days to take Eca i would appreciate it.

DAY 1 4 tabs (clen)
DAY 2 6 tabs
DAY 3 8 tabs
DAY 4 8 tabs
DAY 5 8 tabs
DAY 6 8 tabs
DAY 7 8 tabs
DAY 8 8 tabs
DAY 9 8 tabs
DAY 10 8 tabs
DAY 11 8 tabs
DAY 12 8 tabs
DAY 13 8 tabs
DAY 14 8 tabs

Also just to add, alot of you take 7 tabs max and some take 8, does this really matter or does more (8) affect its effectiveness
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Old 16-02-2005, 02:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ECA would be used on the "off 2 weeks"

E=ephedrine
C= caffeine
A=asprin

some people say 7 tabs max, others do have 8. personally when i have 20mcg tabs i have 7, when i have 40mcg tabs i used 4.
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Old 16-02-2005, 03:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes i agree i think 7 is enough, Is ECA a tablet then or three different tabs, Sorry but never used it before and if it is a tab how much should i use daily
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I have been told Never more than 8 tabs a day! I used to take 8 tabs per day, i would cycle.. 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 stay on 8 for 14 days then stop, and take ECA twice per pay for two weeks, then back on the Clen up to 3 cycles like that.

I have recently got down to the weight i got down to using that cycle,but this time just using Chefx Diata. I look allot healthier, and avoid the side such as shakes, nervousness, agresion, depression, (all possible) I have some ECA and Clen Left, not sure I would bother using it again, unless i get to a point on Diata where i cant loose any more weight, but that, so i am told, wil not happen!
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Old 16-02-2005, 03:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Cheers 4 that i am also using diata, could you just clarify is eca a single tab and how much do i use total in one day
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Single tab.
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Your losin 2 lb a week Tyson why do you need ECA?

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Just a little boost in the right direction HOW MANY A DAY AND DO I PYRAMID
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the only time you should stay on Clen for more than 2 weeks is if you are using Ketofen(sp)
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don't cycle Clen and ECA together they compete for the same receptor sites,

30mg Ephedrine
300mg Aspirin
100mg Caffiene

Take the above 3 times a day for 2 weeks then switch with Clen.

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no you will find that they hit the same receptor but from diffrent angles and it does work i do this evert time i compete and as you can tell by my pic on my avaitor it does work..

i have also placed many others on this routine whilst i have been preping them for shows on in all cases it worked a treat..
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I have been doing a bit of research into the ECA side of things and have come to these conclusions from what I have found out from the brains on the board.

25mg eph
100mg Asp
100-200mg caff
1/2 grapefruit
(2-3 times/day)

These doses are lower than most people give, apparently asprin is hard on the stomach and can give you ulsers.
You can buy all the components separately..... caffine tabs - all supplement manufacturers sell, Asprin from a chemist and Ephedrine from www.qualitysupps.co.uk marketed as Vaspro bronchial dilator at £10.99 for 48 25mg tabs.
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Excellent info cheers m8, i think as PSCARB says i will stick to twice a day as 3 times may cause ulcers ect: NICE ONE
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Take the above 3 times a day for 2 weeks then switch with Clen.

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Jock would it really matter if i used two weeks clen first and then two weeks Eca
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i wouldnt cycle the clen up I would just go in at the top dose and stay on it for 14 days then take a couple days clean(let CNS rest a little) then do the eca for 14 days rest couple days and repeat clen etc etc etc.

I would also split the clen dose in to 2 doses and not use the single dose theory that most use.
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