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| Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire)
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![]() ![]() | Clen & Eca Cycle's As most of you know i normally use clen two weeks on two weeks off, but i keep seeing posts from people who also use Eca, as i never used to have to cut up and have only learnt how to use clen correctly this year i was just wondering how i add the Eca to a cycle. This is my current cycle below so if you could advise how much and on what days to take Eca i would appreciate it. DAY 1 4 tabs (clen) DAY 2 6 tabs DAY 3 8 tabs DAY 4 8 tabs DAY 5 8 tabs DAY 6 8 tabs DAY 7 8 tabs DAY 8 8 tabs DAY 9 8 tabs DAY 10 8 tabs DAY 11 8 tabs DAY 12 8 tabs DAY 13 8 tabs DAY 14 8 tabs Also just to add, alot of you take 7 tabs max and some take 8, does this really matter or does more (8) affect its effectiveness
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ECA would be used on the "off 2 weeks" E=ephedrine C= caffeine A=asprin some people say 7 tabs max, others do have 8. personally when i have 20mcg tabs i have 7, when i have 40mcg tabs i used 4.
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![]() ![]() | Yes i agree i think 7 is enough, Is ECA a tablet then or three different tabs, Sorry but never used it before and if it is a tab how much should i use daily
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I have been told Never more than 8 tabs a day! I used to take 8 tabs per day, i would cycle.. 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 stay on 8 for 14 days then stop, and take ECA twice per pay for two weeks, then back on the Clen up to 3 cycles like that. I have recently got down to the weight i got down to using that cycle,but this time just using Chefx Diata. I look allot healthier, and avoid the side such as shakes, nervousness, agresion, depression, (all possible) I have some ECA and Clen Left, not sure I would bother using it again, unless i get to a point on Diata where i cant loose any more weight, but that, so i am told, wil not happen! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Your losin 2 lb a week Tyson why do you need ECA? SD
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | the only time you should stay on Clen for more than 2 weeks is if you are using Ketofen(sp)
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | don't cycle Clen and ECA together they compete for the same receptor sites, 30mg Ephedrine 300mg Aspirin 100mg Caffiene Take the above 3 times a day for 2 weeks then switch with Clen. Jock
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | no you will find that they hit the same receptor but from diffrent angles and it does work i do this evert time i compete and as you can tell by my pic on my avaitor it does work.. i have also placed many others on this routine whilst i have been preping them for shows on in all cases it worked a treat..
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I have been doing a bit of research into the ECA side of things and have come to these conclusions from what I have found out from the brains on the board. 25mg eph 100mg Asp 100-200mg caff 1/2 grapefruit (2-3 times/day) These doses are lower than most people give, apparently asprin is hard on the stomach and can give you ulsers. You can buy all the components separately..... caffine tabs - all supplement manufacturers sell, Asprin from a chemist and Ephedrine from www.qualitysupps.co.uk marketed as Vaspro bronchial dilator at £10.99 for 48 25mg tabs.
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| Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire)
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![]() ![]() | Take the above 3 times a day for 2 weeks then switch with Clen. Jock[/quote] Jock would it really matter if i used two weeks clen first and then two weeks Eca
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | i wouldnt cycle the clen up I would just go in at the top dose and stay on it for 14 days then take a couple days clean(let CNS rest a little) then do the eca for 14 days rest couple days and repeat clen etc etc etc. I would also split the clen dose in to 2 doses and not use the single dose theory that most use. |
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