Predator

Hiya fellas,

When should PCT start after your last shot of Winstrol Depot?
Is it 12hrs, the same as oral Winstrol?

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Pscarb

the half life for winstrol is 1 day so i would leave it 3 days then start your PCT...

big

Yes, the active life is 12 hours so I would start PCT 12 hours after last administration.

hackskii

Hey predator, did you like the depot?

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Biker

next day or 3 days, won't make any real difference tbh.

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John

of contradicting info going around, or is it just all personal pref?

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Biker

Well the general rule of thumb for winstrol is probably next day, but it won't matter if it's left for 2 or 3 days and you can be 100% sure you're clear by then. So really both suggestions are correct in their own ways

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John

you start too early?, does it have a detrimental effect on your progress ( the gear )?, or your recovery?

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Biker

starting PCT too early just means that you are wasting the start part of PCT, as you can't recover until your levels are low enough to allow so, with a longer ester that could mean the first week of PCT would be wasted so in reality you would be running 1 week less PCT that required.

Although in a case like this because winstrol has such a short active life it won't make a difference as at the most you might possible lose 1 day of PCT

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John

confusing at times, i guess the knowledge will come with time and asking q,s.

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big

It's to some extent personal pref really mate. Sadly there are no real strict studies as to when to run PCT as the medical community seems averse to running such studies :( So nobody REALLY knows 100% for sure.

I base my preferences on active life of substances. This is as close to scientific as you can get in my opinion.

The consequence of starting PCT too early is that you waste a few days of cheap tablets. The consequence of starting PCT too late is that you're shut down for some time. Based on this I would MUCH rather start too early than too late.

Biker

ok here you go, this is a simplified as it can be without taking into account real active amount in blood due to ester weight and wastage.

You can't be anymore sceintific than to take into account the ester attached to the steroid.

If you have 500mg of a test with a half live of 7 days (which I believe enanth is) in your system.

Day 1 post cycle you have 500mg of test
Day 7 post cycle you have 250mg of test
Day 14 post cycle you have 125mg of test (still to high to recover)
Day 21 post cycle you have 62.5mg of test in your system bingo you may be able to recover.

You can not recover while injectected testosterone levels are higher than normal levels.

I think when I worked it out properly a 500mg of test cycle came in at day 20 but I'm too lazy to go and look.

I think there is a lengthy post from me in the beginers cycle thread about this subject in more detail.

Sometime it's better to go and think about these things your self rather than just to follow the lists of PCT times given on many sites which were little more than guesses that became internet fact.

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Biker

and for most the consequence of starting PCT too early does not just equal a few cheap tabs it equals not doing PCT for the correct length of time and not recovering properly.

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big

I agree with this, but at the active life level.


The way I understand it is that after 7 days it means that the remaining 250mg may or may not have been metabolised. So you MIGHT have UP to 250mg of test left. Or you might not...

big

Yes, unless you run the PCT for longer, and then it only becomes the case of losing a few cheap tabs.