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Old 31-01-2005, 08:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dbol only cycle

Hi people, going to be starting a dbol only cycle in about 2mths. Im not going to be eating loads of these pills as its my first cycle on AS so im keeping the dose low'ish. I've been trying to get shut of gyno for the last 6mth but think the lumps will shrink no more, i got the gyno from M1T. Wish i just started with gear instead of that ****. Im goin to try and cut down abit befor using the dbol as i know i will hold abit of water when on.

This is my cycle.

20mg Dbol for 6wks (nolva at 10mg e/d - is this enough to keep gyno away)
Milk thistle throughout cycle & pct (should i start this a month befor cycle)

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Nolva, 60, 40, 20
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Creatine ethyl ester

Im about 168 pounds with about 11% body fat, mite be lower. Been training for 4yrs and have been following a strict training program and diet for the last yr. Im 25yrs old.

I also have some Methyl Rage (mdht) would this be good to stack with the dbol to stop bloat or is this a bad idea. I know both are bad for the liver but thought the mdht would help more with lean muscle rather than water weight.

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Old 31-01-2005, 09:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think 20 mg might be too low of a dose.
I would do 30-35 for a first cycle.

Never heard of methyl rage but I would leave that out of the mix this time.
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Old 31-01-2005, 09:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think 20 mg might be too low of a dose.
I would do 30-35 for a first cycle..
i'll shoot down the middle... i'd say 25mg will be sweet..he'll get away with it imo as he's only 170lb hacks ( what height are u bro?)

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Never heard of methyl rage but I would leave that out of the mix this time.
bump that!!!
never heard of it..but it sounds like on of those put on 40lbs of pure mass in 3 weeks jobbies...cancel that one mate
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Im about 5ft9 5ft10, somethin around there. Ages since i last got my height measured. The Methyl Rage is meant to be like Provirion, think its used to harden up. A few people who used it said it helped harden them up and lower their body fat, might use this before the dbol to get the my body fat down abit. Doing this might help get shut of the left over gyno.

How does the nolva look every day, should i up the dose as i def dont want gyno to come bk in a hurry? Its took ages to get the lump to shrink, might even leave the dbol till after summer and carry on trying to shift the remaining gyno for a while or will it never go?

I've got everything i need for the cycle now but dont want to jump into anything. Will i hold loads of water from the dbol, if so i might leave it for now as i want to be quite ripped for june?

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methyl rage is 17-alpha-methyldihydrotestosterone .... DHT basically..

its a designer supplement.. legal.. but it is a steroid...

dont really think u should use it...
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methyl rage is 17-alpha-methyldihydrotestosterone .... DHT basically..

its a designer supplement.. legal.. but it is a steroid...

dont really think u should use it...
Why should i not use it, is it no good? I got it cheap so not bothered if its no good. If i did take it would it do what i want it to do and help harden me up abit. I thought this would be ok to take as it doesn't convert to estrogen?

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