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Jud6572 · 13-08-2003, 02:23 PM

Hi guys,
Made a lot of progress from my first course of oral Russian Dianabol thanx for the help.

Now after giving the old liver a rest for a few weeks I've decided to do another course next week. Still taking the protein shakes and the good diet approach but i want to cut up after the second course. Self admittingly im a needle coward so any suggestions as to how i can do this?

I'm curretly taking a tablet which is supposed to be called effogen (possibly spelt wrong) it's a small white tablet with a W imprinted on it. ( is it oral winny?) it's supposed to be a fat loss tablet??

Also what does flax seed oil do when you put it in your protein shakes???
All help appreciated guys Cheers. Jud6572

***Lorian*** · 13-08-2003, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Jud6572
what does flax seed oil do when you put it in your protein shakes???

IT EXPLODES !!

...

*lol* .. err sorry .. seriously, it doesnt *do* anything? .. mixing flax oil into protein shakes is actually I really good idea as it masks the taste

Raven · 13-08-2003, 05:26 PM

You are taking ephridrin which is not a steroid it's a respiratory stimulent but it does have thermogenic effects and is used in many fat burning supplements. How are you taking this?

Putting Flax seed oil in your protien shakes will make it digest slower in the gut, giving you a constant supply of protein for a longer peroid

Jud6572 · 13-08-2003, 10:20 PM

First of all lorian and raven thanx for the rapid reply.

Raven you have concreted my suspisions I tried extensivly to search the internet for effogen and failed. I had a feeling it could have been the ephidirin so thanx for your advice.

Also I am taking the tablet 1 twice per day with a cup of coffee. This is what I have been told to do, any change on that?

Also is this tablet really doing me any good or would I be better off on the oral winstrol?

13-08-2003, 11:17 PM

sounds a bit mad, taking stuff you dont even have a clue what it is, do you not think its a little better to do some research and then buy what you want to reach your goals? jmho

You would be better off with winnie for cutting for sure, winnie/eph would be a good comnination, i would add some test prop myself, get over the fear of needles, i would be more scared of a liver transplant myself bro its not so bad

peace

Jud6572 · 14-08-2003, 12:01 AM

Thanx for the reply OJ,

Think you got me a bit mixed up here. Thing is I know exactly what the drug does and it's effects on the system. The reason I didn't know the name is because my supplies come through a chain of four people before they get to me. I have met the supplier though as I worked out in his gym but he doesn't know I get the drugs from him as a friend deals with it all. I try not to stay too close to the dealing side of things.

thanx for the reply and the good advice on the cycle.

14-08-2003, 12:04 AM

no worries, just thinking of safety my friend

peace

Cheater2K · 17-08-2003, 09:40 PM

U should be able to mix them, ive never really tried, only use cod liver oil and glucosamine atm.

demon · 25-08-2003, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Cheater2K
...only use cod liver oil and glucosamine atm.

Cheater, are you using glucosamine for your joints? Does it work?
(My joints are still giving me a little trouble after my cycle.)

Jud6572 · 25-08-2003, 01:55 PM

just a bit of advice guys im training really hard at the moment and have just got myself a nice intemediate bodybuilding programme but have suddenlt gained a load of stretchmarks and burst blood vessels under my armpits how can i avoid or get rid of these?

also the ephedrine i mentioned earlier in the post is giving me major jip! my chest is killing it feels like i have broken ribs so watch out if your thinkin of having a go sometime! has anyone ever had theses symptoms? ( ive stopped using them) I heard a lot of death stories about these probarbly exagerrated by the FDA as usual? Cheers guys

Cheater2K · 25-08-2003, 02:56 PM

Yeah, useing glucosamine for my shoulders are they ache alot. Esp now im on winny, and must admit the glucosamine has got rid of all the pain. Im pain free, which is the first time in months

With only being 18 though, im rather worried what im gonna be like in the future :p

**hackskii** · 25-08-2003, 04:06 PM

Hey jud, the stretch marks are probalby from putting on some weight/ size really fast. The tightness in your chest is from that stimulant that you are taking. I agree with OJ on knowing exactly what you are taking prior to taking them. There are drug interactions with mixing diffrent things. The chest pains are a real bummer and would stop taking that stuff. I also agree with OJ on injuctibles verses the orals. The liver is an important part of life.

Jud6572 · 04-09-2003, 09:47 PM

Yeah cheers hackskii stopped takin the ephedrine. As far as the liver goes i'm drinking plenty of distilled water and taking milk thistle to try and stop some of the damage.

**hackskii** · 04-09-2003, 10:03 PM

I dont know about the distilled water. I used to sell water purifiers, de-ionizers and distilled water have no minerals. Water has minerals in it and in its natural form minerals are present. If you drink distilled water it goes through your system and when you pee, you will pee some minerals. This is because when you drink distilled water as the water goes through you it tries to go back to its original ph and leaches the minerals in your body. Most foods are kindof deficient of minerals due to genetic altering and the fast growing cycles of foods with fertalizer. I would drink filtered water using charcoal. You can live without vitamins but minerals you cant live without. Like potassium regulates heart function, iron transfers oxygen in the blood, zink supports immune function. Sorry about the poor spelling as I dont have a spell checker...

Jud6572 · 04-09-2003, 10:08 PM

No worries about the spelling mate but sound advice there. While researching I read that distilled water was good for the liver but that could of been a load of doggy! Cheers mate.

13-08-2003, 02:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jud6572 Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 216	replys appreciated Hi guys, Made a lot of progress from my first course of oral Russian Dianabol thanx for the help. Now after giving the old liver a rest for a few weeks I've decided to do another course next week. Still taking the protein shakes and the good diet approach but i want to cut up after the second course. Self admittingly im a needle coward so any suggestions as to how i can do this? I'm curretly taking a tablet which is supposed to be called effogen (possibly spelt wrong) it's a small white tablet with a W imprinted on it. ( is it oral winny?) it's supposed to be a fat loss tablet?? Also what does flax seed oil do when you put it in your protein shakes??? All help appreciated guys Cheers. Jud6572

25-08-2003, 04:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 30,975	Hey jud, the stretch marks are probalby from putting on some weight/ size really fast. The tightness in your chest is from that stimulant that you are taking. I agree with OJ on knowing exactly what you are taking prior to taking them. There are drug interactions with mixing diffrent things. The chest pains are a real bummer and would stop taking that stuff. I also agree with OJ on injuctibles verses the orals. The liver is an important part of life. __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

04-09-2003, 10:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 30,975	I dont know about the distilled water. I used to sell water purifiers, de-ionizers and distilled water have no minerals. Water has minerals in it and in its natural form minerals are present. If you drink distilled water it goes through your system and when you pee, you will pee some minerals. This is because when you drink distilled water as the water goes through you it tries to go back to its original ph and leaches the minerals in your body. Most foods are kindof deficient of minerals due to genetic altering and the fast growing cycles of foods with fertalizer. I would drink filtered water using charcoal. You can live without vitamins but minerals you cant live without. Like potassium regulates heart function, iron transfers oxygen in the blood, zink supports immune function. Sorry about the poor spelling as I dont have a spell checker... __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

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13-08-2003, 05:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Raven Hardcore Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Bowery Posts: 845	You are taking ephridrin which is not a steroid it's a respiratory stimulent but it does have thermogenic effects and is used in many fat burning supplements. How are you taking this? Putting Flax seed oil in your protien shakes will make it digest slower in the gut, giving you a constant supply of protein for a longer peroid

13-08-2003, 10:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jud6572 Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 216	First of all lorian and raven thanx for the rapid reply. Raven you have concreted my suspisions I tried extensivly to search the internet for effogen and failed. I had a feeling it could have been the ephidirin so thanx for your advice. Also I am taking the tablet 1 twice per day with a cup of coffee. This is what I have been told to do, any change on that? Also is this tablet really doing me any good or would I be better off on the oral winstrol?

13-08-2003, 11:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
The OJ Guest Posts: n/a	sounds a bit mad, taking stuff you dont even have a clue what it is, do you not think its a little better to do some research and then buy what you want to reach your goals? jmho You would be better off with winnie for cutting for sure, winnie/eph would be a good comnination, i would add some test prop myself, get over the fear of needles, i would be more scared of a liver transplant myself bro its not so bad peace

14-08-2003, 12:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jud6572 Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 216	Thanx for the reply OJ, Think you got me a bit mixed up here. Thing is I know exactly what the drug does and it's effects on the system. The reason I didn't know the name is because my supplies come through a chain of four people before they get to me. I have met the supplier though as I worked out in his gym but he doesn't know I get the drugs from him as a friend deals with it all. I try not to stay too close to the dealing side of things. thanx for the reply and the good advice on the cycle.

14-08-2003, 12:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
The OJ Guest Posts: n/a	no worries, just thinking of safety my friend peace

17-08-2003, 09:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cheater2K EFBB Winner Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 5,811	U should be able to mix them, ive never really tried, only use cod liver oil and glucosamine atm.

25-08-2003, 01:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jud6572 Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 216	just a bit of advice guys im training really hard at the moment and have just got myself a nice intemediate bodybuilding programme but have suddenlt gained a load of stretchmarks and burst blood vessels under my armpits how can i avoid or get rid of these? also the ephedrine i mentioned earlier in the post is giving me major jip! my chest is killing it feels like i have broken ribs so watch out if your thinkin of having a go sometime! has anyone ever had theses symptoms? ( ive stopped using them) I heard a lot of death stories about these probarbly exagerrated by the FDA as usual? Cheers guys

25-08-2003, 02:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
Cheater2K EFBB Winner Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 5,811	Yeah, useing glucosamine for my shoulders are they ache alot. Esp now im on winny, and must admit the glucosamine has got rid of all the pain. Im pain free, which is the first time in months With only being 18 though, im rather worried what im gonna be like in the future :p

04-09-2003, 09:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jud6572 Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 216	Yeah cheers hackskii stopped takin the ephedrine. As far as the liver goes i'm drinking plenty of distilled water and taking milk thistle to try and stop some of the damage.

04-09-2003, 10:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jud6572 Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 216	No worries about the spelling mate but sound advice there. While researching I read that distilled water was good for the liver but that could of been a load of doggy! Cheers mate.