the psycho bulk stack? sustanon and deca with a mdrol kick start - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

dizdabiz · 03-02-2009, 03:08 PM

Im going to be doing a cycle soon as i have 15 organon sustanon 250 and 12 organon deca's now ill also be using cels mdrol...

my history is im old enough to have teenage kids,ive been pumping on and off for over 15 years,ive done half a cycle od dbol,sustanon and deca before but halfway through i had a death in the family and slipped down a slippery slope of drugs and alcohol,obviously there was no pct!,so this would be my first real cycle and i have'nt been to the gym in a long time so theres no garantee that ill be starting the cycle straight away
also
anabolic innovations cycle support for blood pressure,prostate,immune system,liver,heart health,cholestrol.

mega fish oil caps-5n a day
mega multi vitamin-2 a day
liv 52-for liver dosage according to pack
hydrolyzed collagen,cissus,glucosamine for joints
as well as kelp for thyroid,potassium and taurine for cramps,enzyme formula and artichoke for digestion,zinc for testosterone support
and a valerian root formula and maybe zma for sleep

also no explode pre workout,cell mass after workout and nitrix 3 times a day
protein coming from,eggs,chicken,beef,100%beef burgers,fish,cottage cheese,peanut butter,yogurt and pulses is going to be 3/4/500 aday
complex carbs are going to be sweet and normal potato,yam,plaintain,bread,white/brown past/rice/cous cous,porridge oats,cereal etc...simple carbs straight after a workout,uncapped as the skys the limit caloriewise for me
as well as veg,salad etc...

weights sessions are going to hard,dirty and heavy,maybe a 3 day on 1-2 days off(still deciding due to work schedule) ie-mon-chest and bi,tri's and forarms, tue-legs&back- wed-shoulders,traps,stomach and obliques, i will be hitting every body part with 3X10 with a variety of exercises roughly 5 different ones which has worked great for me in the past.

now the cycle im thinking of is...
week 1-10 mg mdrol-1 sus-1dec
week 2-20mg mdrol-1 sus 1 dec
week 3-20mg mdrol- 2sus 2dec
week 4-20mg mdrol-2sus 2 dec
week 5-2 sus 2 dec
week 6-2 sus 2 dec
week 7- 2 sus 1 dec
week 8-2 sus 1 dec
week 9- 1 sus
week 10-
week 11-
week 12-
week 13-50 mg clomid-nolva 40
week 14 50mg clomid-nolva-20
week 15 50mg clomid-nolva-20
week16 50mg clomid-nolva-10

im also thinking about using hcg,maybe 500 e3d on cycle?

now i dont know how im going to react gyno wise but i reckon i might by some letro,so when i get rushed by all that testosterone,if there is any problems i can stop it dead!

now this is all subject to change as im still researching and learning,so what do you think and what would you do with the same products as ive got?

thanks in advance yeah!

Trenzyme · 03-02-2009, 03:31 PM

not quite the stack i was expecting ..lol
give a bit more info on diet..how many cals and youre stats..size bf% age ect

SD · 03-02-2009, 03:53 PM

Tapering up the sust and deca is controvertial, I would be tempted to start with 2&2 from the get go, no advantage to tapering up except your semi-virgin receptors will probably do well on a smaller dose anyway so it saves you a few quid.

Letro during that cycle is a great idea, you only need a small amount 0.25mg-0.5mg per day, so at 2.5mg per ml, a 30ml bottle will last the entire cycle.

HCG 500iu e3d is a great idea, you have obviously read around and have a good plan of action.

Maybe Clomid could be 100mg od in the forst week of PCT, it is the stronger of the two drugs for recovering your HPTA.

Like it

SD

pryzfire · 03-02-2009, 08:02 PM

forgive me for seeming rude to my elders but, u mentioned not going to the gym for a while and ur considering a cycle. Im sure id get flamed for saying that. Surely get some (more) training behind u first.

C19H28O2 · 03-02-2009, 08:17 PM

im also interested in using superdrol as a kick-start. please keep us informed on how u think it compares to dbol

sham · 04-02-2009, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C19H28O2

im also interested in using superdrol as a kick-start. please keep us informed on how u think it compares to dbol

same here

brownie · 04-02-2009, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD

Tapering up the sust and deca is controvertial, I would be tempted to start with 2&2 from the get go, no advantage to tapering up except your semi-virgin receptors will probably do well on a smaller dose anyway so it saves you a few quid.

Letro during that cycle is a great idea, you only need a small amount 0.25mg-0.5mg per day, so at 2.5mg per ml, a 30ml bottle will last the entire cycle.

HCG 500iu e3d is a great idea, you have obviously read around and have a good plan of action.

Maybe Clomid could be 100mg od in the forst week of PCT, it is the stronger of the two drugs for recovering your HPTA.

Like it

SD

I think this is good advise,.. if you follow this you will not go wrong.. I don't see any benifit in tapering up.

EDG301 · 04-02-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pryzfire

forgive me for seeming rude to my elders but, u mentioned not going to the gym for a while and ur considering a cycle. Im sure id get flamed for saying that. Surely get some (more) training behind u first.

Read it all fella - "i have'nt been to the gym in a long time so theres no garantee that ill be starting the cycle straight away
also"

dizdabiz · 04-02-2009, 03:15 PM

v@trenzyme-yeah im a lightweight! haha! as i havent started yet im not sure of the calories,but heres whats a rough plan-

on waking on an empty stomach-

5.00am-meal 1-50gprotein,60gsimple carb shake
6.00am-meal 2-7-8 whole eggs and can of beans
10.00-meal 3-500mls of natural yogurt with a 50g scoop of whey sprinkled with mixed seeds
1.00-pm-meal 4-large jacket potato can of tuna
4.00-meal 5 -100% half pound beef burger(brown bread,salad and cheese
7.00-meal 6-2 chicken breasts,sweet potatoes veg
10.00-meal 7-large tub of cottage cheese,bagel or big plate of porridge/oatmeal
there will also be fresh fish,cans of pilchards,sardines,mackeral,salmon,as well as steak,lamb,turkey and other goodies swapped and intergrated with and between meals
thats just a rough guide but each meal will be laden with 50g protein,loads of complex carbs,veg,fats! and if in still feel hungry...then im going to eat more!

statswise im 35 yrs old 5'11 and weigh86k-13.7 stone,im quite bulky and i do hold a bit of stomach,but it is in no way protruding,or overlapping! not bad for someone who's been drinking and eating junkfood all my life!

@sd-cheers sd,its still touch and feel but i feel im nearing something solid!

@pryzfire-yeah dont worry bro,im here for the long run so believe me im not going to be one of those dudes that jump on the juice,jump on the biggest weights they can find and end up being stretchered off to hospital! hahaha!

@ c19 and sham-dont worry bro's it might not be the biggest cycle in the world but ill be doing a log on it!

@brownie cheers bro,yeah it looks like thats the way to go!

@dan ellis,cheers matey,ive been guilty of doing exactly the same thing.....even with my own posts! hahaha!

now i know this may be a little mad but what do you think of this-Hey there! im still in the research,learning and planning stage of doing a cycle

as i cant get any more juice ive only got 15 amps of sus and 12 amps of deca im thinking of using the mdrol as a kickstart and finisher to make the cycle longer and im maybe thinking of doing this cycle

week1-mdrol-20mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week2-mdrol-20mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week3-mdrol-20mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week4-mdrol-30mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week5-mdrol-30mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week6-sus 500mg deca 400mg
week7-sus 500mg-mdrol 30mg
week8-sus 250 mg-mdrol 30mg
week9-mdrol 20 mg
week10-mdrol 20mg
week11-clomid 100mg-nolva 40mg
week12-clomid 50mg-nolva 20mg
week13-clomid 50 mg-nolva 20mg
week14-nolva 20mg
pct will also include some transreversitol products,tongat ali/longjack,some trib maybe,just for maxiumum recovery

also hcg will probably be used at 500iu e3d

I know that the mdrol dosage is high,but im looking for maximum muscle but everything is all subject to review and change,my main question is the mdrol from week 7-finish,is it a good idea and will i still reap benefits or will i only see sides? has anyone used any oral as a kick start and finish and if so what was the pro's and cons?

03-02-2009, 03:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
dizdabiz Newbie Trainer Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6	the psycho bulk stack? sustanon and deca with a mdrol kick start Im going to be doing a cycle soon as i have 15 organon sustanon 250 and 12 organon deca's now ill also be using cels mdrol... my history is im old enough to have teenage kids,ive been pumping on and off for over 15 years,ive done half a cycle od dbol,sustanon and deca before but halfway through i had a death in the family and slipped down a slippery slope of drugs and alcohol,obviously there was no pct!,so this would be my first real cycle and i have'nt been to the gym in a long time so theres no garantee that ill be starting the cycle straight away also anabolic innovations cycle support for blood pressure,prostate,immune system,liver,heart health,cholestrol. mega fish oil caps-5n a day mega multi vitamin-2 a day liv 52-for liver dosage according to pack hydrolyzed collagen,cissus,glucosamine for joints as well as kelp for thyroid,potassium and taurine for cramps,enzyme formula and artichoke for digestion,zinc for testosterone support and a valerian root formula and maybe zma for sleep also no explode pre workout,cell mass after workout and nitrix 3 times a day protein coming from,eggs,chicken,beef,100%beef burgers,fish,cottage cheese,peanut butter,yogurt and pulses is going to be 3/4/500 aday complex carbs are going to be sweet and normal potato,yam,plaintain,bread,white/brown past/rice/cous cous,porridge oats,cereal etc...simple carbs straight after a workout,uncapped as the skys the limit caloriewise for me as well as veg,salad etc... weights sessions are going to hard,dirty and heavy,maybe a 3 day on 1-2 days off(still deciding due to work schedule) ie-mon-chest and bi,tri's and forarms, tue-legs&back- wed-shoulders,traps,stomach and obliques, i will be hitting every body part with 3X10 with a variety of exercises roughly 5 different ones which has worked great for me in the past. now the cycle im thinking of is... week 1-10 mg mdrol-1 sus-1dec week 2-20mg mdrol-1 sus 1 dec week 3-20mg mdrol- 2sus 2dec week 4-20mg mdrol-2sus 2 dec week 5-2 sus 2 dec week 6-2 sus 2 dec week 7- 2 sus 1 dec week 8-2 sus 1 dec week 9- 1 sus week 10- week 11- week 12- week 13-50 mg clomid-nolva 40 week 14 50mg clomid-nolva-20 week 15 50mg clomid-nolva-20 week16 50mg clomid-nolva-10 im also thinking about using hcg,maybe 500 e3d on cycle? now i dont know how im going to react gyno wise but i reckon i might by some letro,so when i get rushed by all that testosterone,if there is any problems i can stop it dead! now this is all subject to change as im still researching and learning,so what do you think and what would you do with the same products as ive got? thanks in advance yeah!

03-02-2009, 03:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
Trenzyme evolving... Join Date: May 2008 Location: north east Posts: 921	Re: the psycho bulk stack? sustanon and deca with a mdrol kick start not quite the stack i was expecting ..lol give a bit more info on diet..how many cals and youre stats..size bf% age ect

03-02-2009, 03:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
SD My Protein Discount Code MP2819 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 5,578	Re: the psycho bulk stack? sustanon and deca with a mdrol kick start Tapering up the sust and deca is controvertial, I would be tempted to start with 2&2 from the get go, no advantage to tapering up except your semi-virgin receptors will probably do well on a smaller dose anyway so it saves you a few quid. Letro during that cycle is a great idea, you only need a small amount 0.25mg-0.5mg per day, so at 2.5mg per ml, a 30ml bottle will last the entire cycle. HCG 500iu e3d is a great idea, you have obviously read around and have a good plan of action. Maybe Clomid could be 100mg od in the forst week of PCT, it is the stronger of the two drugs for recovering your HPTA. Like it SD

03-02-2009, 08:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
pryzfire alpha'ing you out Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: close to the gym Posts: 54	Re: the psycho bulk stack? sustanon and deca with a mdrol kick start forgive me for seeming rude to my elders but, u mentioned not going to the gym for a while and ur considering a cycle. Im sure id get flamed for saying that. Surely get some (more) training behind u first.

03-02-2009, 08:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
C19H28O2 Gym Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: manchester Posts: 340	Re: the psycho bulk stack? sustanon and deca with a mdrol kick start im also interested in using superdrol as a kick-start. please keep us informed on how u think it compares to dbol

04-02-2009, 03:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
dizdabiz Newbie Trainer Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6	Re: the psycho bulk stack? sustanon and deca with a mdrol kick start v@trenzyme-yeah im a lightweight! haha! as i havent started yet im not sure of the calories,but heres whats a rough plan- on waking on an empty stomach- 5.00am-meal 1-50gprotein,60gsimple carb shake 6.00am-meal 2-7-8 whole eggs and can of beans 10.00-meal 3-500mls of natural yogurt with a 50g scoop of whey sprinkled with mixed seeds 1.00-pm-meal 4-large jacket potato can of tuna 4.00-meal 5 -100% half pound beef burger(brown bread,salad and cheese 7.00-meal 6-2 chicken breasts,sweet potatoes veg 10.00-meal 7-large tub of cottage cheese,bagel or big plate of porridge/oatmeal there will also be fresh fish,cans of pilchards,sardines,mackeral,salmon,as well as steak,lamb,turkey and other goodies swapped and intergrated with and between meals thats just a rough guide but each meal will be laden with 50g protein,loads of complex carbs,veg,fats! and if in still feel hungry...then im going to eat more! statswise im 35 yrs old 5'11 and weigh86k-13.7 stone,im quite bulky and i do hold a bit of stomach,but it is in no way protruding,or overlapping! not bad for someone who's been drinking and eating junkfood all my life! @sd-cheers sd,its still touch and feel but i feel im nearing something solid! @pryzfire-yeah dont worry bro,im here for the long run so believe me im not going to be one of those dudes that jump on the juice,jump on the biggest weights they can find and end up being stretchered off to hospital! hahaha! @ c19 and sham-dont worry bro's it might not be the biggest cycle in the world but ill be doing a log on it! @brownie cheers bro,yeah it looks like thats the way to go! @dan ellis,cheers matey,ive been guilty of doing exactly the same thing.....even with my own posts! hahaha! now i know this may be a little mad but what do you think of this-Hey there! im still in the research,learning and planning stage of doing a cycle as i cant get any more juice ive only got 15 amps of sus and 12 amps of deca im thinking of using the mdrol as a kickstart and finisher to make the cycle longer and im maybe thinking of doing this cycle week1-mdrol-20mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg week2-mdrol-20mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg week3-mdrol-20mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg week4-mdrol-30mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg week5-mdrol-30mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg week6-sus 500mg deca 400mg week7-sus 500mg-mdrol 30mg week8-sus 250 mg-mdrol 30mg week9-mdrol 20 mg week10-mdrol 20mg week11-clomid 100mg-nolva 40mg week12-clomid 50mg-nolva 20mg week13-clomid 50 mg-nolva 20mg week14-nolva 20mg pct will also include some transreversitol products,tongat ali/longjack,some trib maybe,just for maxiumum recovery also hcg will probably be used at 500iu e3d I know that the mdrol dosage is high,but im looking for maximum muscle but everything is all subject to review and change,my main question is the mdrol from week 7-finish,is it a good idea and will i still reap benefits or will i only see sides? has anyone used any oral as a kick start and finish and if so what was the pro's and cons?

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