Great White

Hey gang

Right, need some advise from you guys, and would especially like Jimmys and Bikers input on this.

I am toying with the idea of running a 2g test cycle next year, around febuary.

I have 5 cycles under my belt now, and gone from a starting weight of 160lb to the 225lb that i am today.

Its taken me 6 years to gain that so roughly a stone a year, and 3 of those years i have been on 2 cycles a year.

I have used the following over the years:

Orals
Dianabol
Anadrol
Anavar
Winny
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolva/Tamofaxin
Proviron

Injectables
Deca
Sust250
Test Ethanate
Test Cyponate
Test Proponate
Equipose
Tren
Vitamin B12

Ive decided from now on, that i am only ever going to use Testosterone in my cycles, and maybe a little tren.

So, what i want to know, is your oppinions on a 2g test cycle.

Which test would you reccommend? Testex? Cyponate? Ethanate?

Should it be split into 4 injections a week, of 500mg a time?

Will Arimidex @ 1mg ED be enough to combat majority of sides (I am gyno prone)

Should i run anything else with it? Any special supplements i need to take into consideration?

Diet - Should i stick with a High protien/Med Carbs/Low Fat diet? Should i just eat anything i can get hold of? Should i cut calories and carbs?

and lastly....

Do you think it is wise to try a 2g cycle after 5 years of AAS experiance (3 years physical experiance)

Any comments would really really be appreciated on this.

My goals in 2005 are to lower BF and to start building my base phsquie for competition in 2006.

I would have hopefully been competing in 2005 with a friend of mine at the gym, but because of my major leg injury, i am only now about ready to start getting things back on track for 2006. Leg is completely healed so lets Rock!!!

Cheers in advance

Paul

Aftershock

What did you do last time Paul? Wasnt it a gram of test with some other stuff thrown into the mix?

Carnivore

how could you go from 1g a week cycles to 2g straight off? overkill dont you think?

robdog

How about a shot of Sust everyday for a few weeks mate.

At the end of the day regarding doses you know your own body beter than me so if you feel you are ready for a bigger cycle then go for it imo.

Biker

let's just keep it at 'toying' rather than reality!

The doses you take are already on the verge of being daft considering you have only done 5 cycles! without even talking about 2g of test.

No one unless they are of competitive standard needs anymore than 1000- 1200mg total a week (total of all steroids used not just test)

If you're not making the gains you think you should you need to sort your diet out, many people make the mistake of adding more and more steroids rather than looking at what their faults are.

fair enough

I think I might have already said... if it's not clear I'm telling you to wise up and don't even consider it!

whatever test is test

2 shots of 500mg should be ample.

probably too much, I'm sure .5 would be ample

what supplements do you currently use? (including vits)

you should get a proper diet sorted, buy DiatiaX

No I don't I know people that have won comps with a quarter of that! DIET is the most important thing.

you might retract that after reading my comments ;)

if you're serious get a coach!

damagedgoods

IMHO it is an individual thing.... I know some people (like the guy I train with) who grow like weeds (and he has a S**t diet) as soon as he looks at a vial - he takes no more than 250mg per week when on - then there are others who don't -(like me!) then again I'm pretty tolerant of most meds - not just AAS.

Godzilla

I wouldn't do 2 grams of test/week if that's what your saying. The sides will out do the gains. The Tren/Test is One hell of a sweet cycle from what I hear, I'd try that... 600mg/Test and 400mg Tren E per week should prove just! Why are you wanting to do 2 grams of Test? If it's more weight your trying to put on, try eating more while your bulking. Also check out this thread, I've thought about this aproach because there are alot of people who swear by it..I've posted this on another thread before..

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...t=length+cycle

Reguardless what you do , good luck..

Great White

Right

I think Biker has summed it up - Thanks for your input there Biker, I really appreciate it.

Aftershock - My last cycle was 900mg test WK (500mg Ethan/400mg Viramone Prop)

Robdog - I ran a 21day Sust cycle before ED shots, Almost gave me gyno :(

Biker - Right in answer to a couple of your questions:

I dont really use many supps to be honest. Just the basics:

1,000mg ALA ED
Milk Thistle ED
Full Sports Vitamin (Wellman) ED
200mg Zinc ED
1,000mg Vit C ED
Fish Oils, Evening Primrose and Cod Liver Oil

Yes, I do need to get my diet sorted out in the new year, I agree with that need more carbs and protien and need to get more veggies inside me.

I did apply for a coach - But he took on Cheater and John instead :P

He he, Anyway, thanks for your responses Biker - I`ll catch up with you on email.

Cheers

Paul

winger

LOL. What about the 27 days on, 17 days off? Come on Biker bring the big man up to speed. Hey Paul why dont you just buy chefx's book?

Jimmy

Ok my thoughts

I do feel that 2g is excessive paul considering your experience

I have done cycles nearly double that size and they DO work!!

Its a personal choice really

On one side you have bikers reasoning (pretty good reasoning at that IMO)

On the other you have the fact that 2g will make you grow like mad (a very dangerous fact IMO)

If you are prone to gyno and you want to do 2g test, then you will suffer but the anastrozol will help with that

I feel that at the most a 1ml test/en and 1ml of tren ace eod will suffice

Aftershock

Im no expert Paul and I dont claim to be. Your obviously keen to get back into it and hit it hard.

2g of test, well if u aint gona grow on that u aint gona grow on anything, but is it necessary and is it worth the risks. I mean apart from the obvious risks of gyno there are other things to consider.

Test normally makes you horney as hell, but ive heard nightmare stories of guys doing high dose test cycles and it going the other way. That lovely little woman of your aint gona be to impressed if that happens is she?

Shutdowns gone be really bad on that cycle, PCT is gona be hell..

Im not saying any of this sh!t it will happen but if you do decide to go down that route them you have to be prepared for every eventuality.

Im doing a longer cycle this time because im running eq, plus I got some TNT here for the next one, which I dont wana waste.

That said I do think the best way forward is going to be short cycles,

Im nowhere near knowledgeable enough advise you exactly what to do, but imagine something like based on Test/Tren run for 3 weeks, HCG to kick downstars back into shape, short pct then repeat.

Could even use suspension and take the ether weight out of the equation.

No firm advice here mate, the more experienced guys will provide that for you, but something for you to think about at least. Its the way im gona go in the future.

Good luck whatever you decide ;-)

Biker

that's certainly one way of cycling but lets not get hung up that it's the only way. it has some attractive properties but then so do longer cycles.

he should buy the book and he should base his diet on it!

turbo

It all depends on what you are trying to achieve really. 225lb isnt small, and a lot of people compete and do well at a much lighter weight than that. Not being funny, but as biker says, after the number of cycles you have done i dont think its needed to jump to 2g. Are you just not making any more gains any more with your current routine/diet/cycles?

Biker

with Paul's height he would need to be coming in at about that weight at 5% BF, so in theory he probably needs another 20lbs or so of lean bulking to achieve it.

SD

Hi Paul,

I remember reading in one of your posts that your family and GF didn't know you used gear, is that right? I am just thinking that if you did a 2g test cycle, it might be hard to disguise mate. All the other sensible stuff was said by Biker already!

Whatever you decide to do, keep us posted

Regards

SD