Newbie, new thread and probably an old old question

[Anders]

Hiya,

Am 27, have been lifting for about 10 years and am about 13.5 stone.

Am looking to start taking steroids and after a fair amount of reading am thinking that the following is probably a good start:

Decca @200ml/wk for 7 wks
Primabolin @50/wk for ?? wks......

On this forum, people seem to prefer taking a stack of Decca with Dianabol for beginners.

I have some questions which I would greatly appreciate some of your advice on:

Which stack would be safest for a beginner?
How long would Primabolin be taken for?
Can Decca and Primabolin be taken orally instead of injected?
If I took Decca and Primabolin rather than with Dianabol, would I still need to use Novadex?
Should I take something else like Sustanon with Decca and Primabolin?

Many thanks in advance for your advice.

Regards,

Anders

[Great White]

Hello mate.

In answer to your questions:

1) For a beginner i always reccommend the following, purley because this was my 1st cycle and i made amazing gains from it:

Week 1-6: Dianabol@40mg ED
Week 1-8: Sust250@500mg WK
Week 9-12: Winstrol Tabs@50mg ED
Week 12+: Clomid

2) Dont even bother with Primo mate, nearly ALL of it going about at the moment is fake. Really not worth the risk of buying it at the mo :(

3) Same as above, but no, they have to be injected

4) You will only need to use Nolva if signs of Gyno appear (itchy/swollen nipples) or if water retention becomes to painful

5) Yes, I would reccommend Sust and Deca, although on a 1st cycle the deca isnt really nesissary. Save your ££££££ for your next cycle

Anymore questions mate, please feel free to ask

Paul

[Anders]

Cheers Paul, appreciate your honesty (reason I joined these forums!)

Would I need to take milk thistle and ALA to counteract any adverse effects on my liver with the above stack?

Would the cycle be ok without the Winstrol - purely because I have read elsewhere that Winistrol is toxic to the liver and provides mild gains?

Also, is 500mg of Sust ok? Again, I read elsewhere that 250mg is sufficient for a beginner.

I think like some, I just want to make sure that I`m not gonna overdo it and do any damage on my first encounter with AAS - so excuse my inexperienced questions!

Thanks again,

Anders

[Great White]

Hello mate.

If you didnt ask questions then the rest of wouldnt learn and there would be no need for these boards, so keep asking

Yes you will need to Take ALA and Milk thistle through out the cycle.

Take ALA at 3g Daily. If you go to the "Links" part of this web site you will find a link to discountala where you can get cheap, good qualitly ALA.

Take Milk thistle at the reccommended dosage on the bottle you buy.

You could run with 250mg Sust a week mate, but to be honest i would really push to go for 500mg

If it`s the injections you are worried about, then dont. I know what it`s like. I was pretty terrified when i 1st started injecting, but honistally mate, it dosnt hurt at all, you will occasionally get a painfull injection, but very rarely.

Inject Monday and Friday and take the Dianabol spread throughout the day.

Anymore questoins, please ask

Cheers

Paul

[Anders]

Cheers Paul,

So what about the Winstrol qu above?

The only other one i had was what happens to the testosterone levels after I come off the cycle? I read that your body can shut down natural production after a cycle of high test levels - will it return or will I then be comitted to continual testosterone injections afterwards?

Apart from that, you`ve answered the only other qu`s I had, so its just a case of going for it now!

Regs,

Anders