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Old 10-11-2008, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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IOC pressuring UK to criminalize personal use of steroids

I wrote an article about the IOC pressuring the UK to make the personal use of steroids illegal before the Olympics.

The UK stood up and rebuffed the US DEA's attempts last year. What do you guys think will happen with the political pressure of the Olympics?

IOC Pressures UK to Criminalize Personal Use of Anabolic Steroids

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Old 10-11-2008, 11:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: IOC pressuring UK to criminalize personal use of steroids

people will still juice, it would just change peoples buying habits and how they go about it all probably.

look on american boards and you'll see that bar a crackdown in a blue moon, AAS is readlily available.... just more tricky to take delivery via internet/email souces?
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i think it depends how many of our athletes are caught in the run up to and during our olympics... i.e. the public would demand some kind of payback for such an event and banning aas would be a good one... however laws dont get passed that quickly so we should be okay for now... maybe any UG labs based in the UK (i dont know if there are any big ones) should tighten things up for a few years but as for importers i cant see it being a problem. when there is a demand for something there will always be someone willing to supply it
 
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: IOC pressuring UK to criminalize personal use of steroids

It wont make much of a difference IMO, Class As and Bs are used throughout all citys on weekends and every other night for that matter. The war against drugs is losing and the Gov admitted this behind the scenes according to civial servants in a paper artilce a for months back.

IMO steroids should be decrimlized alltogether. I think the USA position will change also maybe not to the extent that they are decrimlized there but I think under Obama it wont be a gov issue, it wil be left to the sports bodies to regulate. Obama has already said congress shouldnt be wasting time talking about steroids.
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It wont make much of a difference IMO, Class As and Bs are used throughout all citys on weekends and every other night for that matter. The war against drugs is losing and the Gov admitted this behind the scenes according to civial servants in a paper artilce a for months back.

IMO steroids should be decrimlized alltogether. I think the USA position will change also maybe not to the extent that they are decrimlized there but I think under Obama it wont be a gov issue, it wil be left to the sports bodies to regulate. Obama has already said congress shouldnt be wasting time talking about steroids.
The problem being BB'ers stick out like a sore thumb, atheletes (track) don't and so they will be persecuting and prosecuting the wrong people. They should all fcuk of and leave grown uos decide whats best for them. If they did but admit it they would realise that steroids aint as bad as they make out. Do gooder wan*ers.
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I agree that BBs stand out but in america I havent heard of the FBI busting any of the main bodybuilding competitions, i mean why havent the police go around to Jay Culters house and done a raid. IMO I would like to see some of the big names who have used steroids come out and speak up. I think over the years because people feel uncomfatable with talking about it its pushing it further and further underground and making it seem seedy where as if we look back to the glory days everyone was in amazment of how they could assist in building larger than life bodies.
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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lol, in america you'd think the FDA would be lining the back of the hall to bust bodybuilders after the competition but alas, nothing.

they are the end links in the chain and onyl focus on the guys higher up who supply hoping they will inturn rat out their source to save their butt from jail time.
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Old 10-11-2008, 02:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: IOC pressuring UK to criminalize personal use of steroids

Couldn't give a fcuk tbh...won't stop me using whatsoever...
So what if they arrest me and fine me, cos that's all you'll get. probably even a caution. It will be like the Cannabis laws, it would take sooo much manpower aqnd expense to enforce it, they won't bother
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Old 10-11-2008, 02:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I dont think the police are ****d about steroids, its all the other stuff they are trying to crack down on as people dont go robbing and mugging people to get a fix fron gear
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Old 10-11-2008, 02:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: IOC pressuring UK to criminalize personal use of steroids

Fortunatlely its something thats largley swept under the carpet in the UK, like masturbating in as much as everyone does it but no one talks about it. I doubt its really considered a problem by Whitehall, I mean when was the last time you heard of a BB mugging an old lady to buy steroids?

That said Im not sure how much of a burden criminalization would be to todays target driven police, although most users are very secretive in comparison to rec drug users it could become another case of easy pickings for plod.

An example of this is its well known that police hang round train station exits with a sniffer dog, all they really catch are students and commuters with a bit of personal, but on paper its a drugs bust nonetheless, a crime has been solved and punishment has been dealt, and so another target gets met.

As far as international pressure goes I dont think we have anything to worry about from the DEA, the recent reclassification of weed had nothing to do with them. Besides our two countries rely heavily for eachother for support on the war on terror, any pressure levered on the other is just token to keep parliament/congress happy.
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Old 10-11-2008, 03:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: IOC pressuring UK to criminalize personal use of steroids

Won't change anything I do TBH....

Where there is demand.. there is supply ;)
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Old 10-11-2008, 05:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: IOC pressuring UK to criminalize personal use of steroids

Nice article mate.
Tbh this is a point I belive will come up in the run up to the games.
I really appreciated when the UK goverment basically said "sod it" to the US when asked to join in "Raw Deal", that was a sensible answer as if to say we got way bigger problem than that, even now this goverment thinks wasting money and manpower on an issue that is not an issue is pointless, so well done.
But what is gonna happen when the pressure will come from the WADA through IOC?
There's a lot of money at stake there and reputation as well, even China at the end had to bow and change their rules.
A good point to object would be that UK Athletics is the only federation that actually enforces a LIFE ban for all positive athletes and also that not many UK athlets have been found positive in the last few years despite the UK ruling being different from US and rest of the world where steroids are criminalised!
What is gonna happen if they bow and oblige? Nobody can say for sure, when the US asked for steroids to be criminalised they meant to be equal to a class A drug, this won't stop ppl from using like it doesn't stop ppl from using heroin, cocaine and the lot. Maybe it will reduce recrational gym goers from using as it won't be worth the hassle but competitive BBers will still use, prices will go up and gear will become less available but they won't get rid of it.
Question is: can the goverment afford to embark on another lost cause especially one that causes no harm to anyone?
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Old 10-11-2008, 05:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: IOC pressuring UK to criminalize personal use of steroids

Anyway, what do we care... we dont even take steroids, right lads?

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also do not forget....The tories will more than likely be in charge of the gov't when this becomes an issue...And they are far harsher on drugs than Labour are...
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also do not forget....The tories will more than likely be in charge of the gov't when this becomes an issue...And they are far harsher on drugs than Labour are...
Exactly!
Now as you pointed out Robsta, it wouldn't bother me too much if they'll treat it as cannabis...slap on the wrist first time, fine the second.
It would bother me if they caved in and move it up to class A then it would be a real pain...on top of being stupid as fcuk!
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